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ZZ Top/ Billy Gibbons backing track jam

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  • This topic has 20 replies, 9 voices, and was last updated 8 years ago by sunburst.
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    • March 10, 2018 at 9:59 pm #95163
      Billy R
      Participant

        Here’s another one I found fun to jam over. The cool thing about this one is that it switches between major and minor keys. Its in the key of A, but then switches to F# and back to A. Im a HUGE fan of switching back and forth between major and relative minor keys like that! Gives a song some really cool depth in my opinion…

      • March 11, 2018 at 7:19 am #95179
        charjo
        Moderator

          Billy,
          I would really love it if you could do a video lesson on some of your favourite repeating circular licks, especially with respect to the picking hand and placement of pull-offs and hammer-ons. Brian and Bryce have both encouraged members teaching each other. Passing on some of your skill would be a great help to me and I’m sure many members would also appreciate it.
          John

          • March 11, 2018 at 8:46 am #95184
            Billy R
            Participant

              Sure I’d love to show what I’m doing. However I’m not sure what you mean by “circular licks”. What I suggest is going through the video I just posted and give me the time stamps at which point you see me doing something you’d like me to explain. That way I can go back and look at it and see which licks you’re reffering too.
              For example “at 1:47 you did a cool lick”

              • March 11, 2018 at 11:53 am #95194
                charjo
                Moderator

                  Billy,
                  There are so many of them. I’m referring to the licks with lots of repetition that seem to really give you a burst of speed, you seem to have several “go to” tricks, ie; .16 sec, .21, .26, .39, .47 through .50, 1:15, 1:45, 1:56 is a great example, 2:45.
                  John

            • March 11, 2018 at 8:43 am #95183
              sciencefiction
              Participant

                Cool, Billy. Great playing. I learned something here, I think, for this style of song/playing.
                When you switch to the A major pentatonic box at the second and fourth frets for your lead playing, it still sounds like minor pentatonic licks to me, just coolly different. I think this is because when you go there, the backing track has now changed to Fm, which makes me think you are still playing in the minor pentatonic. In the Crossroads (also A major song), for example, it sounds happy playing at the second and fourth frets, because there is no Fm chord in background.
                Also similar, in Heart of Stone by Rolling Stones, song is in key of C, but lead solo is over Am chord (relative minor?), which gives a similar cool effect, I think.
                So I guess playing over relative minor means playing over the 6th chord (a minor chord) in a given major scale?
                Larry

                • March 11, 2018 at 8:55 am #95186
                  Billy R
                  Participant

                    Thank you sir! SO I’ll admit that I am not overly well versed in music theory. I’m still learning it. In regards to what I did there, the song is in the key of Am. One of the sections switches to F# major which is the relative major to Am. Brian discusses this in various videos- you simply move the pentatonic patterns down three frets, which is what I did there. I used pentatonic patterns exclusively in the whole video, mostly the first, second, and the fourth patterns, with occasional phrasing in the third and fifth patterns here and there. Another cool song that does this is While my guitar gently weeps. It’s in Am but switches back and forth between Am and F# major.
                    I enjoy using these backing tracks because I need to work on my phrasing and timing while listening to the beat. I’ve never played in a band (although I want too) so these backing tracks help out a lot.

                    • March 11, 2018 at 2:00 pm #95208
                      sciencefiction
                      Participant

                        Thanks, Billy. I meant to say F# minor, not F minor. When I played along with that backing track, it sounded to me like the two chords in it were A major and F# minor.
                        Anyway, fantastic lead playing on this!!
                        Larry

                  • March 11, 2018 at 12:53 pm #95199
                    sunburst
                    Blocked

                      Billy this is the best I seen here @ active Melody next to few others including John charjo’s Hendrix months ago.. agree with John..you should micro lesson some licks too! Amazing playing.. listening to it again a few times more so good!

                    • March 11, 2018 at 12:58 pm #95201
                      sunburst
                      Blocked

                        Simply phenosealed phenomenal job 😀

                      • March 11, 2018 at 2:34 pm #95210
                        WBlues
                        Participant

                          Great Billy! Great playing level. I love to switch between major and minor. It’s a lot of fun and we have loads of opportunities to play differently. I can not do that as fast as you do; I have much to do there. Anyway; good that you show the fretboard. So your work can be well tracked with the left hand.

                          Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.

                          Wilfried

                        • March 11, 2018 at 2:45 pm #95213
                          Richard J.R
                          Participant

                            Now that is quite inspiring, totally enjoy your playing. Wwow.

                            Rich

                          • March 11, 2018 at 5:11 pm #95221
                            kubrider
                            Participant

                              Billy you certainly have the speed thing down. Like John I’d like to see you show us mortals how your pick hand is working. Hammers, pulls, etc.
                              You don’t appear to be working very hard yet you produce a LOT of notes.
                              Cool backing track by the way.
                              Rob

                            • March 11, 2018 at 6:45 pm #95228
                              sunburst
                              Blocked

                                BillyR, I would like to know weight and Gibson model,string gauge..what pick you are using, see the Marshall tube have no idea what else I should ask besides knowing you recommended reaper which i’ll certainly look into tonight after practice..you got so good playing here! lol, keep watching this man,,you have lot of talent to share and I am thankful you are here sharing too!

                                • March 11, 2018 at 10:22 pm #95241
                                  Billy R
                                  Participant

                                    It’s a 2012 Gibson Les Paul custom with a maple neck and fretboard. Not sure of its weight, but I use .10 gauge strings on all my guitars. The picks I use are heavy gauge with these textured grip areas on both sides, can’t remember the brand. The Marshall amp you see in the background isn’t what you’re hearing me play through. I’m using the GarageBand program with the amp simulator feature.

                                • March 11, 2018 at 7:34 pm #95231
                                  sunburst
                                  Blocked

                                    zz top Billy Gibons stuff is simply awesome..true blues rock grit and agree with you here mixing minor major here! going to watch some zz tutorials tonight! Certainly room for this style and this this inspires me to stay on this stuff too,simply awesome showcase!,, good night all going to dig it!

                                  • March 11, 2018 at 10:24 pm #95242
                                    Billy R
                                    Participant

                                      Ok guys- ask and you shall receive! I’ll make a video at some point this week showing the little licks I use a lot. Keep an eye out, and I’ll make a whole new thread for it!

                                    • March 14, 2018 at 7:29 am #95339
                                      Patrick van Rijn
                                      Participant

                                        Hi Bily,

                                        Looking forward to that video, cause this is high high class playing! My head is still spinning around!

                                        Regards,

                                        Patrick

                                      • March 15, 2018 at 9:05 pm #95440
                                        Mark O
                                        Participant

                                          I agree with John (charjo). The “circular licks” starting around 0:46 and 1:56 are great examples.

                                          One thing I’ve found that helps tremendously trying to pick these apart is to use a music speed changing app that keeps the pitch the same. Then it’s just a matter of building up the speed to get to Billy’s blazing tempo here. Piece of cake, right? lol

                                          • March 16, 2018 at 2:31 pm #95481
                                            Billy R
                                            Participant

                                              “Blazing tempo” HAHAHAHAHAHA! You guys are too kind, but I’d hardly call any of my playing blazing/ fast. Anyway, I’m gonna work on that video this afternoon/ evening for you guys 😉

                                          • March 16, 2018 at 6:48 pm #95509
                                            Billy R
                                            Participant

                                              OK- I posted a new thread with my soloing breakdown video. Let me know if you have any questions

                                            • March 17, 2018 at 9:07 pm #95568
                                              sunburst
                                              Blocked

                                                Billy, thanks very inspired by your rendition! thanks for the tips too recording sound etc! btw,, I’ve taken a couple days practicing la grange solos,, think’ i’ll be ready ,,still need i few more hours lol..kinda new to me and both solos are pretty big enough solos to digest in a couple days but getting very close with the jam track! regardless ..your skills are very inspirational and ty too for sharing with us AM members!

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