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How to tune a Gibson, by Joe Walsh

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    • January 16, 2017 at 12:44 am #59736
      sunjamr
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        All you Gibson lovers, if you haven’t seen this, you might like to check it out:

        Sunjamr Steve

      • January 16, 2017 at 2:34 am #59741
        WBlues
        Participant

          Very interesting video!
          I can not adjust the neck curvature visually. I put the capodaster on the first fret. Then I press the string at the last fret and would like a distance between the string and the fret that is in the middle approximately of 0.002 inch. He has the experience to make it visual.
          But, I have problems with the height adjustment of the pickups. I am always tormented.

          Wilfried

          Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.

          Wilfried

        • January 16, 2017 at 3:30 am #59742
          Martyn in France
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            Very interesting insight from a guy who knows.
            I don’t know if the forum has seen this video of James Taylor talking about tuning an acoustic guitar. Some of you who haven’t seen it before may find it quite surprising!

            I hope the link works.

            Martyn in France

            • January 16, 2017 at 12:27 pm #59754
              sunjamr
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                For tuning all my guitars, I use a little $2 app on my iPhone called Guitune. It does exactly the same as James Taylor’s tuning device, but even better: It shows the wave form as it builds and decays, like a little oscilloscope. What I have found is that the “cents” adjustment depends on which guitar I’m tuning. I set the middle strings at 0 cents, then adjust the others up or down so that they sound good when octaves or chords are played. So where he has used all negative cents, I have some negative and some positive. I think if you used all negatives, as he has done, you would sound out of key when playing with a jam track. The other thing he didn’t mention is this: When you strike a string set to 0 cents (for example), it immediately goes positive by maybe 5 or more cents, then after a couple of seconds, it stabilizes and goes back to 0 cents. With Guitune, you can watch the wave form doing this. So should you adjust your strings to be in tune when you first strike them, or wait a couple seconds until they are stabilized? Maybe James Taylor knows that even though he’s set his strings at all negative cents, when he first strikes them, they are close to 0 cents. The mind boggles….

                Sunjamr Steve

            • January 16, 2017 at 6:51 am #59745
              JerryA
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                How very interesting. Joe Walsh certainly looks like he knows his way around an axe, that’s for sure. And I am certainly going to try the tuning hints from James Taylor. I’ve also seen curved frets, or somewhat curved. They look pretty funky. I’m not sure how easy they’d be to play.

              • January 17, 2017 at 1:12 am #59805
                WBlues
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                  Does anyone know any simple help, how the height of a pickup is adjusted properly?

                  Wilfried

                  Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.

                  Wilfried

                • January 17, 2017 at 7:46 am #59812
                  sunburst
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                    Good morning AM friends! Steve, I recall sending this Walsh link before you here at AM..and glad you restarted it here too. I am still interested in fine tuning/setting up my lp or at least check the spec factory recommended settings .. might want to lower action and thus have to mess with the pickup height .. going to really be careful,,, i did pretty good setting the intonation..but, i think the G string is the most likely string having to tune more often on my lp and SG Gibsons…anyway, i’m going to check specs and after setup i’m putting new strings on,, intonate it again..seen waish steps a few times,, many other les paul tutorials i saved to review before touching anything! But I’ll post here after I check and reset my lp! .. Was away a long weekend vaca,, just settling down now ( no work slow business handyman here) anyway have to continue where I left off,, last two lessons should be a breeze this morning.. plus a few other lessons plus my January challenge !!! got lot of time,

                  • January 17, 2017 at 8:02 am #59814
                    sunburst
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                      Martyn,I found that James Taylor tuning tutorial interesting.. I understand a bit more about that refined tuning for each instrument’s specification are built differently.. I have been privileged last few years to check out different guitars,, comparing many guitars helps me understand more as well! cheers!

                    • January 17, 2017 at 9:33 am #59818
                      Chuck H
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                        WBlues wrote:

                        Does anyone know any simple help, how the height of a pickup is adjusted properly?

                        Wilfried

                        This will sound a little simplistic –
                        Check the manufacturers recommendations and start there.
                        Adjust them up and down from there till you like the overall tone.
                        Its not an exact science. Your ears tell when its right.

                        • January 18, 2017 at 12:55 am #59880
                          WBlues
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                            Chuck H wrote:
                            WBlues wrote:

                            Does anyone know any simple help, how the height of a pickup is adjusted properly?

                            Wilfried

                            This will sound a little simplistic –
                            Check the manufacturers recommendations and start there.
                            Adjust them up and down from there till you like the overall tone.
                            Its not an exact science. Your ears tell when its right.

                            Yes, I had called in my case at Duesenberg. I got the answer to make it after hearing. The magnet affects the swinging of the string. If the point is found when the magnet affects the string at the swing, the pickup should be reset a bit. The sound of my guitar is good for me. But I can not say whether the pickups are optimally adjusted. Perhaps science ceases at the point at which the magnet is not supposed to influence the resonance of the string. And that depends on the string thickness and how much the string is hit.

                            Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.

                            Wilfried

                        • January 17, 2017 at 12:05 pm #59830
                          Don D.
                          Moderator

                            Thanks for the videos, guys. Joe Walsh is entertaining even when the info he’s giving is a little off (using the fifth-fret harmonic one string lower than the seventh-fret harmonic doesn’t really achieve good tuning for playing). James Taylor’s method, and your method, Steve, are both more on the money for getting a guitar to sound good.

                            My $60+ Boss tuner uses flashing red LEDs on a semicircular dial to show cents and the the dial isn’t large enough to catch the ever-changing cents, which was a frustration when trying to tune to J.T.’s offsets.

                            There was a longish conversation about all of this started by Taylor L. last September.


                            @taylorlongoutlook-com

                            Don D.

                          • January 17, 2017 at 12:44 pm #59834
                            spconn3
                            Participant

                              he made it look so easy to do

                              spconn3

                            • January 17, 2017 at 12:58 pm #59836
                              sunburst
                              Blocked

                                It is easy but you best watch and learn the simple techniques for tweaking a fine expensive guitar (setting up a guitar) isn’t hard to adjust but first you need a bit of experience to evaluate if in fact certain settings need adjusting. you don’t want to experiment or train on an expensive guitar unless you know what you are doing.

                              • January 18, 2017 at 8:15 am #59886
                                Chuck H
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                                  I’m pretty certain Joe Walsh has been setting up guitars for himself for decades and knows exactly how he likes them for his playing style. The same for Mr. Taylor. I wonder how many of us would be happy with the set ups they use. Or the tuning for that matter.

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