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December 12, 2017 at 2:17 pm #87353
can anyone enlighten me when they say visualizing chords and not playing over them with scales, does this involve the caged system, is there any lessons that brian as produced will explain this, thanks a lot, regards dave , new member.
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December 12, 2017 at 7:45 pm #87365
Dave,
I’ll take a shot at this. The point is that where there’s a scale there are chords within it. To create all the chords of a key you “harmonize” the underlying scale, ie. the 1 chord is the 1st, 3rd and 5th note of the scale, the 2 chord is the 2nd, 4th and 6th note of the scale, etc. So when you play notes within a chord of the key, you are finding notes within the scale without having to think about the scale.
In the case where a chord is not really within the key, playing notes from the current chord of the progression would “fit” without having to change to a different more appropriate scale for that chord. The CAGED system is a great way to visualize chord shapes and, therefore, finding chord tones. Learning arpeggio shapes would be another way. Understanding triads would be another way. I don’t think Brian has any lessons on the CAGED system but I know there are a few lessons that develop melodies from arpeggios.
Don’t get too fussed about this stuff, I think you come to absorb some of these things when you’re ready and you have more foundation in chords and pentatonic scales.
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December 13, 2017 at 1:25 pm #87416
Charjo speaks the truth. I’ve learned the arpeggio shapes quite well, and can move freely around them with the chord changes. But I very seldom use them, because they sound really boring to me. I use them sometimes in an emergency when I’ve run out of other useful licks, but to me it’s just kind of like treading water.
Sunjamr Steve
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December 13, 2017 at 2:40 pm #87419
Steve, I think a good use of the arpeggios are to use your pentatonic scale/blues scale/mode but highlight a chord change on beat 1 with a chord tone out of the arpeggio of the current chord of the progression. Best used if the chord tone is very representative of the chord, like a major 3rd or flat 7 of a dominant chord or the 6th of a major 6. If you have the arpeggio in your muscle memory it’s easier to find that chord tone. I think that can make a lead sound more sophisticated. I’m not advocating making a whole melody out of the arpeggio. I’m early in the process of trying to do these things.
John
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December 13, 2017 at 7:08 pm #87427
best way to see everything about knowing the key and progression etc,, is to first understand very basic fundamentals.. know the root of chords in any key.. simple 145 progression The cage system and octaves and basic major minor scale patterns up and down the fret board..the Diatonic scale and chromatic scale . Many/most chords are built off of the notes/scales the are within a chord.. .. you’ll see this if you do….understand meaning of the arpeggios from root to 7th full scale notes on the fret board every string..and it should be easy to visualize and understand anything else such as blues notes flat sharp.. modes. learn to have this basic understanding memorized.. much after this is easier to see especially following Brian’s lessons. He know’s and explains well enough,,if however you still don’t get it, start over with basic theory coarse. I do find more from beginner coarses jazz and blues.. and why I am a member here
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December 13, 2017 at 7:13 pm #87428
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