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How to Improvise Around a Melody – When The Saints Go Marching In – Guitar Lesson EP385

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In this week’s guitar lesson, you’ll learn how to improvise chords and fill licks around a recognizable melody by playing the song “When The Saints Go Marching In”. This is also a standalone composition (no jam track needed) – and works on acoustic or electric guitar.

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  1. David L says

    October 30, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    This sounds great. Thanks Brian.

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    • Roger L says

      November 1, 2020 at 7:29 am

      How do I stay logged in, for days?

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      • Dan S says

        November 4, 2020 at 3:57 pm

        click and drag the lock in the address bar to your desk top that’s what I did

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  2. Michael Allen says

    October 30, 2020 at 5:52 pm

    Since I was born and raised in New Orleans, I really appreciate this tune. Thanks Brian

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  3. Mr.Charlie says

    October 30, 2020 at 6:44 pm

    Got information on the guitar the skeleton is using?? looks killer……Nice lesson once again

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    • JohnStrat says

      October 30, 2020 at 9:55 pm

      Looks new maybe its Justin stock …………

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      • Brian says

        October 30, 2020 at 11:03 pm

        Yes. Good eye

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      • Mr.Charlie says

        October 31, 2020 at 6:21 pm

        got some screamin pick ups and bone nut n bridge

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    • Keith C says

      November 2, 2020 at 4:03 pm

      Bit of a Bo Diddly job!

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  4. Scott N says

    October 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    I’m decent with pentatonic scale, but flying pretty blind with the major scale. Should I be learning that it in order to understand why the individual notes work in piece like this? Or should I just stick with the chord shapes and pentatonics, and just accept that some of the notes don’t fit, and memorize them and move on?

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  5. Jim M says

    October 30, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    Love the song. Really upbeat arrangement Brian.

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  6. Mike R says

    October 30, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    This is exactly what I have been working on. This tune and Wade In The Water. Been trying to improvise around both tunes using the Cage System. Thanks Brian. Care to do Wade In The Water?

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  7. Noshan G says

    October 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    Namaste. Great lesson. Though I don”t want to direct any artist and one should not, I think sequalae solidifies the teachings. Examples are 213,214,303 and 305.So I would love to have and learn the sequalae of this kind. Song like “Meet me in the city” by Junior Kimbrough would be perfect for students like us who will learn little bit of fingerstyle blues and some new renditions technique. Hope you will give it a second thought. Thanx.

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  8. Lyn C says

    October 30, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Interesting arrangement .. thanks Brian.

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  9. JohnStrat says

    October 30, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    Another useful one Brian funnily enough I was noodling around on this about a day or two ago and now I can start to see where it can take one.
    Thanks. JohnStrat

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  10. brian b says

    October 30, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    I am a little lost on this one. You started out talking about playing the melody. How do you find the melody without the sheet music?

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    • Michael W says

      October 31, 2020 at 5:15 pm

      It’s great practice to try to figure out melodies by ear. Just try to work it out note by note. Good luck!

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      • brian b says

        November 1, 2020 at 1:08 pm

        I was afraid that was the answer!

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      • brian b says

        November 1, 2020 at 4:36 pm

        Do you have a process you follow to figure it out? I know for instance chords are made up of the 1-3-5 etc.

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    • Brian says

      October 31, 2020 at 6:29 pm

      sheet music? what’s that? 🙂

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      • brian b says

        November 1, 2020 at 1:10 pm

        I was afraid that was the answer!
        snicker sncker

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      • brian b says

        November 1, 2020 at 4:35 pm

        Do you have a process you follow to figure it out? I know for instance chords are made up of the 1-3-5 etc.

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  11. Lefteris B says

    October 31, 2020 at 5:38 am

    Just perfect!

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  12. kilgore trout says

    October 31, 2020 at 6:28 am

    Amazing! Thank you, Brian!

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  13. brian-belsey says

    October 31, 2020 at 7:16 am

    Terrific, Brian! It would be great to have more lessons based on well known songs with fill licks and/or improv (also like St. James Infirmary a while back).

    The ES175 is also very tasty, but if I had it I couldn’t resist having it refinished!

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  14. Mark E says

    October 31, 2020 at 7:40 am

    Hi Brian–Thanks so much for the lessons! Is there any way you can post the full-speed tempo you play at on each of the compositions? When I print the tablature, there is a tempo indication, but I think it is the tempo of the slower walk-through played in the tab viewer. I’d love to have an easy way to tell what the full tempo is without trying to clock each lesson.

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  15. john legge says

    October 31, 2020 at 8:29 am

    Another brilliant lesson, thanks Brian.

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  16. Jim Dog says

    October 31, 2020 at 9:31 am

    When I first saw this lesson was Saints, I thought, what will be next Camptown Races? But. man was I wrong! This is a great lesson, with so many take aways. You could turn Mary Had a Little Lamb into an awesome lesson.
    Thank you Brian.

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  17. Raymond P says

    October 31, 2020 at 10:04 am

    This was a great lesson Brian, just what I needed. After learning this lesson I tried the using your advice and now find it much easier to improvise.

    Thanks again
    Ray P

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  18. Glenn W says

    October 31, 2020 at 11:32 am

    I think there’s a lot to be said for lessons revolving around songs familiar to everyone. A lot of working through a song is becoming familiar with it and I found I was able to work through this one quicker because I always had the song in my head.

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    • Adrian Z says

      November 19, 2020 at 5:09 am

      Totally agree Glenn. So much easier – for me anyway – when I know a song

      Cheers

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  19. nomini says

    October 31, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    Brian, you amaze me. You are on steroids the way you are churning out such quality and variety. I especially love these lessons based on a familiar melody. Thanks.

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  20. San Luis Rey says

    October 31, 2020 at 5:45 pm

    The tone you’re getting on your new/old Gibson is killer! It reminds me of the guitar tones I heard through our old record player as a kid. Great find Brian. What is the other old Gibson you have?

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    • Brian says

      October 31, 2020 at 6:10 pm

      You’re probably thinking of the ES-125 – also from the 50s

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  21. Francois M says

    November 1, 2020 at 10:21 am

    Wow. Just amazing. There is so much useful advice in here I could easily work with the teachings from this lesson for weeks. The best part is how we can go wild on the notes as long as we play the right note to resolve at the right time. I have been using Let It Be as my basic song to try to dress up with fingerstyle embellishments, etc. and will see how I can incorporate the teachings from this lesson into playing that song. In When the Saints Go Marching In you can just hear the Dixie bands going nuts between melody phrases but I’m not sure it will work as well for something like Let It Be. I imagine you can’t address a song like Let It Be because of copyright issues. Anyways, thank you. I enjoy each lesson.

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  22. Randy H says

    November 1, 2020 at 11:39 am

    Brian:
    I have one question regarding landing on the “Resolve” note. At 13:28 on part 2 you mention landing on the Resolve note, which appears to be B. Is this the 2nd for the A Chord at that point or am I just confused ?? Is there a general rule for landing on a particular note to resolve like the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th etc. Just not sure where the B fit in.
    Thanks again for providing great lessons with some theory to help make sense of it all.

    Randy

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    • Roland says

      November 2, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      my name is not brian, but I allow myselfe to answer and tell you how I see it. The B is actually a chord-tone of the E-Chord (the 5th), but is played a litte before the chord-change (A to E) and therefore creates a strong tension and makes us “wait” for E-chord to releave the tension. The Note B actually “belongs” to the E-Chord.

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      • Randy H says

        November 2, 2020 at 3:42 pm

        Roland:
        I was thinking after I posted the question that it was a Dominant 2nd type note of the Dominate chord E , along the lines of the Dominated 2nd lesson Brian gave awhile ago. Thank you for commenting on this. I love the theory parts, but can’t dwell on it too long.
        Thanks for the help,

        Randy

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  23. peter v says

    November 1, 2020 at 1:21 pm

    great lesson Brian.
    I agree with Francois.It really opens up a new way of thinking and playing for me.Normaly I played the “saints ” in a ragtime fingerpickingstyle in C or G, somewhow a little bit like EP296.It sounds good ,but your version is different and more interesting. I wonder how you would do it in fingerstyle.Might be you give it a try and you will show us somewhen???

    Thanks a lot

    Peter

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  24. Kathryn L says

    November 1, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    This lesson, revolving around “When the Saints”, is a wonderful practice piece. I have always played it “plain Jane” style, because I don’t have a lot of imagination, but since I’ve been checking out lessons – with all the different “voicings” and learning (at least in my head), I am getting to have a better “handle” on where I can add to my old simple melody style. My broken finger is now getting broken in slowly. Yipee!

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  25. Steve M says

    November 1, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Greatly enjoying this and learning useful stuff. I may have to learn to sing it!

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  26. Rotor-ron says

    November 1, 2020 at 10:37 pm

    this is perfect, more more more 🙂

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  27. Walter D says

    November 2, 2020 at 10:04 am

    Great lesson with some great ideas. My wife caught me doing this with the Star Spangled Banner a few months ago. She said “How did you learn to play that?”. I said “really? If you can hum the tune you can figure out the notes”. The trick is to add the color as illustrated by Brian in this lesson.

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  28. Roland says

    November 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    Thank you for this idea! I would love to have more lessons like this. This way I learn a song with melody and chords plus how to improvise! Thats great! It is fun and sound like music!

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  29. Keith C says

    November 2, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    Brian – what’s the odd chord at 18.30 in the first video please?

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    • Brian says

      November 2, 2020 at 4:10 pm

      Just slid into an A7

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      • Keith C says

        November 3, 2020 at 3:32 pm

        Between the A7 at the 5th and the A at the 2nd there’s a little passing chord you slip in – its that one that’s puzzling me – I think the notes are EBDF#

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  30. Keith C says

    November 2, 2020 at 5:15 pm

    Very enjoyable lesson and I like your idea of thinking of it in terms of call and response, helps to focus on melody and fills.

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  31. David S says

    November 2, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    Brian- Another great learning lesson.Keep em coming. Thank for all you do. Dave

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  32. Glenwood L says

    November 2, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    Excellent work, Brian! Your love for what you do is just flowing — really, really flowing! It works!
    Thanks for working the way you do.
    Glenwood

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  33. David G says

    November 3, 2020 at 5:36 pm

    Super lesson as always, Brian — but what makes this one special is that it’s just so much fun. I’ve been having a ball building (or trying to!) on what you taught to keep working up new licks built on the basic structure and melody. So liberating! Thanks so much.

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  34. Richard F says

    November 3, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    I love this. I’m busy with Christmas songs at the moment. In doing them, I realize that I get much more out of the “etudes” when they are close to or actually interpretations of songs I’m familiar with. WTSGMI is a great example of this, especially with the emphasis on improvising. I’ve done Silent Night, Midnight Clear, Jingle (Jangle) Bells & am working on O Holy Night. Plan to do Saints next. Thanks. Happy Hallowe’en & happy Christmas holiday season.

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  35. Claude R says

    November 4, 2020 at 1:23 pm

    Just the ticket for where I’m at! Yes please more lessons like this I know chord shapes, voicings up the neck (CAGED), pentatonics and harmonic thirds & sixths, but putting it all together is the barrier I’ve hit. This lesson speaks to that . THX

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  36. cbuck says

    November 4, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    hello brian, in part two when picking out the d# dim 7 you say think minor penitonic pattern one but 7th fret string 2 is not in it but, is in major so i think i have that , how about string 1 fret 4 why doe that work ?

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  37. Haralabos S says

    November 6, 2020 at 12:14 am

    Bellissima. Ongi settimana una nuova idea imprendibile.

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  38. William S says

    November 7, 2020 at 4:12 pm

    Hi Brian, love the Gibson, love the song, could you possible do a lesson on Amazing Grace from this perspective of melody. By the way I own a 1959 Gibson Bryland, I got her out recently brushed of the dust still, the guitar works good, but the Brian and fingers haven’t caught up yet haha, Just love your style keep up the great lessons. Will

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  39. cbuck says

    November 7, 2020 at 6:33 pm

    is that first shape move able down two a A up two a B ? Thanks

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  40. cbuck says

    November 7, 2020 at 6:36 pm

    disregard wrong lesson tks.

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  41. Barry Marsden says

    November 13, 2020 at 6:05 am

    Great stuff, this made me revist EP261 St James’s Infirmary which is along similar lines. Another good one to do would be Cocaine Blues by the Reverend Gary Davis. Davy Graham did a good version of this.
    Also there was a good tip in your YouTube video. To play fast you have to practice fast.

    All the best Barry

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  42. Barry B says

    January 7, 2021 at 8:54 am

    Your Gibson got a good home now Brian!

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  43. Richard F says

    January 22, 2021 at 11:24 pm

    I appreciate especially those “etudes” that relate to an established song. I’ve been working with my brother on an arrangement for Reenlistment Blues (A theme melody in the 1950’s film From Here to Eternity) I worked out an accompaniment routine with chords, fills & a solo. I jammed with some people & got compliments on my arrangement. So, thanks for the ideas & themes in your lessons. I found myself using a Freddy Green chord on the I. It works. If you’re ever wondering what to do next, I’d love to see an exposition of Freddy Green’s MO. Next few weeks to be devoted to triads. I discovered them a few years ago, but your lessons go beyond learning the chords, but rather what, when & how to use them. Thanks,

    RF

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  44. Andrew R says

    February 9, 2021 at 6:07 am

    Well that was great Brian, I really dug that. How about a similar lesson around St James Infirmary? Could be a covid 19 special!

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  45. Andrew R says

    February 9, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    Oops you already did that, ahead of the game, great stuff!

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  46. Donald H says

    February 15, 2021 at 2:49 pm

    Thanks for this lesson, Brian. I really appreciate the effort you make to explain how you get to certain notes and how it all ties together with chord shapes.

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  47. Kathi W says

    May 26, 2021 at 11:15 am

    Great lesson. Thanks to you , I now have a great interest in triads, 7ths, inversions, drop2,3. I can intellectualize the link between chords and scales and play them…..waiting for the rock to hit me when I internalize it… The moment I know 2×3 = 6 without laying out 3 rows of 2 apples.

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  48. Ryan S says

    January 29, 2022 at 11:19 pm

    Hey!

    New member here, any chance of upping the traditional version?
    Because there are many parts where yuo say “instead of” and “this would be” that would be easier to understand if you made a lesson on the traditional version. Thanks!

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