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Hi everyone,
I did a recording of EP308 this morning. Awful video quality (why did I sit in front of the window..?)
I recorded using Garageband as usual, although this time after recording I clicked on the sound library and accidentally applied an amp patch (which I then couldn’t remove).
I was surprised at just how many options there were, and it got me thinking about social media guitarists and whether most of what we hear is post-processed rather than curated balance of amp/pedals/individual guitar and pickup tone. I often watched videos and thought ‘how the **** did they get their guitar to sound like that?’
Do you think the ability to add stuff after recording ruins the end result? Essentially just clicking a single button to improve your results.
To me this felt like adding a filter to a photo. Effortless and mediocre. I’m curious at to your thoughts (perhaps this has been discussed already elsewhere on the forum)
Anyway here’s the recording! I chose the most simple patch to the original tone I had
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Great playing Ben and cool tone dialled in! I’m a bit of a traditionalist I think. I just work out the best setting on my guitar, amp and pedalboard and then mic my amp when recording. I don’t change anything in my DAW unless I need to bump up volume or backing track. Anyway, that’s just me. All the best! 😎🎸😎
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I was surprised at just how many options there were, and it got me thinking about social media guitarists and whether most of what we hear is post-processed rather than curated balance of amp/pedals/individual guitar and pickup tone. I often watched videos and thought ‘how the **** did they get their guitar to sound like that?’
Do you think the ability to add stuff after recording ruins the end result? Essentially just clicking a single button to improve your results.
I think most will just use plugins (amp sim) to get the best sound for YouTube and if you have the right software, you can hear the exact sound while playing and recording so very little post processing is needed. I honestly don’t know how it would work in garage band so you would need to do some research first. I know it works very well with Studio One Artist edition which is what I use.
Like Gary, there are also those who just tweak their live rig to sound good for a recording which is likely different then how you set things up for a live gig with other band members. In the bedroom by yourself, you can get away with more bass. But in a live setting, the bass is cut in favor of mids to cut through the bands mix.
And you found an AM lesson that I never heard before. Nice job on that jazzy piece.
Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.
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I thought the tone sounded good and you played it super smoothly. I’m terrible with tone but I generally try to get my amp and pedals setup the way I like and only use post processing to add something I don’t have a pedal for if that’s what I’m looking for.
Joe
The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
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Firstly, fantastic playing and tone. I’m not familiar with the lesson but I don’t doubt you nailed it.
I’ve felt the same about YouTube guitar players etc for years and how they get their guitars to sound so good.
I do think whatever software they are using makes a big difference but I also believe you can only make a good recording sound better and not the opposite.
One other thing to be wary of is players who do “play alongs “ over the original recording.
I don’t want to sound disrespectful to guys who do it and I don’t doubt they can actually play, but the amount of hiding places available through that approach makes you sound twice as good as you really are.
Liam.
“We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. “
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Really enjoyed your playing on this one, Ben. Thought the tone was pretty interesting, too.
I do mess with the post production a little, mostly with eq or reverb. The recording through my SM 57 already sounds a little darker than the amp sound in the room, so I think a little adjustment is justified.John
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Sounded amazing – lovely playing!
With regard to recording options and post-processing, seems like that’s how it is these days. Record a clean DI then use all the options you have to create the tone you want.
Personally, I lean more traditional in that I mic my amp and overdrive pedal – however, I apply compression, delay and reverbs in the DAW only so I can get the right amount dialled in to fit Brian’s backing track. If you record delay, compression and reverb, you can’t modify adjust them later.
"I hear you talkin' son, but you 'aint sayin' nothin'" - Will McFarlane quoting Muddy Waters hearing a really fast guitar player
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Nice performance of this wonderful lesson, Ben – the feel and intonation were perfect 👏👏
I recall an interview with Keith Richards, who said he preferred to let small mistakes remain in his studio performances, as it then sounded more ‘live’ and genuine. I’m certainly with him on this, though these days – particularly with AI – it’s difficult to distinguish between genuine or ‘manufactured’ playing. Time was when you had to have a decent raw take as a foundation – you couldn’t ‘hide’ bad playing – but today I’m not so sure any more!
Like WPB, and I suspect many others, I use my DAW for AMP plug-ins, as well as Compression and EQ. But I don’t think of this as being any different to having a physical AMPs and multiple pedals – it’s just cheaper, takes up less space and has more options 😂😂. But, different jokes for different folks. – Mark 👍🎶😎
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