D minor -hmm?

[kevin m]

No, D minor and G dominant 7 do not have the same notes.
D minor has the notes D, E, F, and G.
G dominant 7 has the notes G, B, D, and F.

I am new -when I play a D minor in either the first position on strings 1 2 3 there is an A on my middle finger
when I play using the a minor shape at the fifth fret and naming my cord off of the fifth string there is again an A note on the 4th -I am curious why the D minor chord is described without the A note that is in my shapes –cheers

[charjo]

You lost me, Kevin.
D minor has the notes D,F, A and the extended D minor 7 has the notes D, F, A and C.
Are you referring to a particular lesson?
Sometimes a chord can be implied by 2 notes, eg. D minor could be implied by the D root and the F minor 3rd.
The 5th is the note most often dropped on the guitar, especially in extended chords.
John

[Michael Krailo]

It seems like you are responding to something you seen in one of Brian’s video’s, but it is not clear which video you are referring to.

Dm: 1 b3 5 (D F A)
G7: 1 3 5 b7 (G B D F)

So Dm chord has the F note which is the dominate 7th in G7. So you are correct that a Dm chord has an A note in it. The A is the 5th and the F is the flat 3rd.

A Dm chord has the same exact notes D F A in them, the order just changes as they show up in the three different shapes. That’s referred to as the root form, 1st inversion, and 2nd inversion.

Root note patterns >>> CAGED shapes >>> TRIAD'S. Just put in the work and watch your guitar skills soar.

[sunjamr]

You might be confusing the notes of a chord (1, 3, 5) with the notes of a scale (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

Sunjamr Steve

[kevin m]

charjo wrote:

You lost me, Kevin.
D minor has the notes D,F, A and the extended D minor 7 has the notes D, F, A and C.
Are you referring to a particular lesson?
Sometimes a chord can be implied by 2 notes, eg. D minor could be implied by the D root and the F minor 3rd.
The 5th is the note most often dropped on the guitar, especially in extended chords.
John

Hello Charjo
You are correct -I am working around in ML 131–the g dominant 7 chord out od the “D” shape looks very similar to ma as the d minor using the “A” shape

Thanks a bunch -Kevin

[Michael Krailo]

Now that we know you were referring to ML131, I see what you are asking now about the Dm without the A note. Your confusion is based on miss-calling the D7 chord as a Dm which it is not.

You also said in your original post that Dm was D E F G, which is incorrect. There are only three notes in Dm: D F A.

G D F B is a full G7 out of the D-Shape
G F B still sounds like a G7 even though it’s missing the 3rd interval.

D A C F# are the notes in a D7 chord at the 5th fret, not a Dm chord.
The F# is the third interval
C is the b7 that makes it a dominant 7 chord

Hope that makes sense. I know I was confused about seven chords for a long time before I learned all the chord theory and formulas for every chord. Then it all made sense.

Root note patterns >>> CAGED shapes >>> TRIAD'S. Just put in the work and watch your guitar skills soar.

[Author]

Posts