D minor -hmm?

[kevin m]

No, D minor and G dominant 7 do not have the same notes.
D minor has the notes D, E, F, and G.
G dominant 7 has the notes G, B, D, and F.

I am new -when I play a D minor in either the first position on strings 1 2 3 there is an A on my middle finger
when I play using the a minor shape at the fifth fret and naming my cord off of the fifth string there is again an A note on the 4th -I am curious why the D minor chord is described without the A note that is in my shapes –cheers

[charjo]

You lost me, Kevin.
D minor has the notes D,F, A and the extended D minor 7 has the notes D, F, A and C.
Are you referring to a particular lesson?
Sometimes a chord can be implied by 2 notes, eg. D minor could be implied by the D root and the F minor 3rd.
The 5th is the note most often dropped on the guitar, especially in extended chords.
John

[Michael Krailo]

It seems like you are responding to something you seen in one of Brian’s video’s, but it is not clear which video you are referring to.

Dm: 1 b3 5 (D F A)
G7: 1 3 5 b7 (G B D F)

So Dm chord has the F note which is the dominate 7th in G7. So you are correct that a Dm chord has an A note in it. The A is the 5th and the F is the flat 3rd.

A Dm chord has the same exact notes D F A in them, the order just changes as they show up in the three different shapes. That’s referred to as the root form, 1st inversion, and 2nd inversion.

Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.

[sunjamr]

You might be confusing the notes of a chord (1, 3, 5) with the notes of a scale (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

Sunjamr Steve

[kevin m]

charjo wrote:

You lost me, Kevin.
D minor has the notes D,F, A and the extended D minor 7 has the notes D, F, A and C.
Are you referring to a particular lesson?
Sometimes a chord can be implied by 2 notes, eg. D minor could be implied by the D root and the F minor 3rd.
The 5th is the note most often dropped on the guitar, especially in extended chords.
John

Hello Charjo
You are correct -I am working around in ML 131–the g dominant 7 chord out od the “D” shape looks very similar to ma as the d minor using the “A” shape

Thanks a bunch -Kevin

[Michael Krailo]

Now that we know you were referring to ML131, I see what you are asking now about the Dm without the A note. Your confusion is based on miss-calling the D7 chord as a Dm which it is not.

You also said in your original post that Dm was D E F G, which is incorrect. There are only three notes in Dm: D F A.

G D F B is a full G7 out of the D-Shape
G F B still sounds like a G7 even though it’s missing the 3rd interval.

D A C F# are the notes in a D7 chord at the 5th fret, not a Dm chord.
The F# is the third interval
C is the b7 that makes it a dominant 7 chord

Hope that makes sense. I know I was confused about seven chords for a long time before I learned all the chord theory and formulas for every chord. Then it all made sense.

Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.

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