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March 6, 2013 at 12:37 am #4641
I’ve got a three point log splitter that is a freaking animal. The last splitting we did, I broke the plate that hooks to the ram and drives the wood into the wedge on a piece of stubborn hedge wood.
The steel plate broke at the weld and bent upward. I plan on replacing the steel plate with a new hunk.
I can weld, sort of weld…lol… The steel is 3/8″ thick. Anyone know if I’ll be good with 6011 rod @ 85-90 amp on the box? I figure at least three passes, stacked.
Anybody??
Thanks!
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March 6, 2013 at 1:51 am #10083
LOL Terry, you win “the most unusually post ever”. Sorry can’t help you but I read that you can trade a good hedge wood bow for a horse and a blanket.
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March 6, 2013 at 2:02 am #10084
6011 is a good general purpose rod. Real good for surfaces with rust, paint, or just dirty. Amp setting sound good generally speaking but it will vary a little depending on the welder. You should achieve good penetratio at that thickness of material. I don’t know if I would multi pass or not, may not be necessary. If there is room you may want to weld in some form of gusseting, as opposed to extra welds, to add strength. Try a run on a practice piece first if you can.
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March 6, 2013 at 2:34 am #10085
Hey thanks droid…… It’s nice to read your post and feel like I’m somewhat on the right track.
Gordo, for not knowing anything about welding, you’ve said a lot in a most unusual reply. But, I hear tell that hedge wood makes a mean traditional bow, and probably worth more than a horse and blanket in trade, would have to throw in a saddle too. lol…
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March 6, 2013 at 10:49 pm #10099
@luch_handt wrote:
Hey thanks droid…… It’s nice to read your post and feel like I’m somewhat on the right track.
Gordo, for not knowing anything about welding, you’ve said a lot in a most unusual reply. But, I hear tell that hedge wood makes a mean traditional bow, and probably worth more than a horse and blanket in trade, would have to throw in a saddle too. lol…
Hey Terry
If you haven’t fixed it yet or if it didn’t work for some reason, a 7018 low hydrogen rod would be better choice than the 6011. As droid said, 6011 is a good all purpose rod and actually its the AC version of the 6010 rod, which is one of the main rods used with DC. 6010 rods doesn’t like AC at all, 6011 will work OK with AC. AC isn’t the greatest for 7018 but it will work. It really runs best on DC negative
With 7018, it doesn’t penetrate as deep as the 6011 but it has much better elasticity under pressure. If possible preheat both pieces of the metal just hot enough that it would uncomfortable to touch it. It doesn’t have to be red hot so a typical propane torch used for plumbing should do the trick. This will not only make the weld metal flow smoother but will help prevent the weld metal from cracking as it cools
If you have opened the 7018 pkg or they came loose, put them in your oven for 20-25 min @ 400 deg to get the moisture out of the coating and you will be ready to blaze away.
If you have some scrap, practice a couple of beads – the low hydrogen family flows a little different than other rods. Keep the arc in the center of the puddle instead of moving it about as you would with 6010/6011. Should come out looking like toothpaste on a brush, and the slag may even curl up like tree bark as it coolsThe coating on that rod is primarily limestone just like what is used in a steel mill to coat the molten steel as its poured into molds. As that rod coating melts, it produces a gas that is is low oxygen, low hydrogen in content and that gas shields the liquid metal from any contamination.
Your welding machine is probably an AC welder, possibly a Lincoln 225 amp. Low hydrogen rods will work on AC but you will have more spatter than if you used a DC machine. That’s the reason that I suggest a few practice beads before you actually fix your splitterHope this helps. This concludes today’s lesson in arc welding 101
Keith
aka BluezhawkPS And BTW, No 4 letter words allowed as you learn to strike an arc with the low hydrogen rods, there is a learning curve ventures into the realm of frustation
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March 6, 2013 at 11:55 pm #10101Anonymous
Ya Keith said, use the idiot rod 7018 and ya the 6011 is reverse polarity.
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March 6, 2013 at 11:55 pm #10102
Hey thanks a bunch for posting this up Keith. I will try to refrain from them little four letter words. I just read that it would be handy to keep a file in the pocket to clean the 7018 for a restrike.
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March 7, 2013 at 12:09 am #10103
@Louis8 wrote:
Ya Keith said, use the idiot rod 7018 and ya the 6011 is reverse polarity.
Something got lost in the translation?
7018, idiot rod, hmmmm? That’s a new one on me
I could say that about the 7014 which is also known as the ‘jet rod’ because it almost lays down a good bead by itself as long as you are welding flat.
OK, I make a motion that we adjourn from metallurgy and play our guitars
Do I have a 2nd?
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March 7, 2013 at 12:36 am #10104
Sounds great to me…lol…glad I didn’t mistakenly put this in a forum other than “discuss anything”.
I think I did read something about 7018 being a really good rod for vertical welding too. I think I’ll get some just to say I tried it, who knows I may get decent at it.
Thanks to all that participated in my thread. It’s good to know we have talented musicians that are talented in other areas.
Thanks all!!
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March 10, 2013 at 5:10 am #10142
@luch_handt wrote:
Sounds great to me…lol…glad I didn’t mistakenly put this in a forum other than “discuss anything”.
I think I did read something about 7018 being a really good rod for vertical welding too. I think I’ll get some just to say I tried it, who knows I may get decent at it.
Thanks to all that participated in my thread. It’s good to know we have talented musicians that are talented in other areas.
Thanks all!!
TerryHey Terry
One last bit of advice on this…
The 7018 rod is a good all position rod but it does take some practice to have your hand steady enough. If you are planning to try vertical welding with it, buy some 3/32 in diameter rods to learn with and then go up to 1/8 in. 3/32 is a little less filler metal to deal with and a little less heat. And the heavier the metal that you are welding, the better that it will absorb and distribute the heat – your beads will look much better on the heavier material.
Have fun
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March 10, 2013 at 11:02 am #10145
Good info Keith!
Thanks!
Terry
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