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EP246 Classic Rock Rhythm-Keith Richards

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    • April 24, 2026 at 8:14 am #413277
      sciencefiction
      Participant

        I finally got around to learning EP246. This has been on my list for some time. EP246 was very popular when it first came out, and there are several excellent posts, some by members who have since left the site.
        Thanks,
        Larry

      • April 24, 2026 at 9:39 am #413281
        charjo
        Moderator

          Nicely done, Larry. That’s a great lesson.

          This lesson contains a lot of the theory I was just learning about, ie. that classic rock is largely much like the blues in building rhythm around three dominant chords in three different keys.
          Rather than being static on an E chord the rhythm pulls from an E mixolydian tonal center using triads from the parent key of A major. Those being A, D and E or the I, IV and bVII of E mixolydian, all of that representing the E major chord.
          Over the A chord, using an A mixolydian tonal center, you can pull from the parent key of D major and throw in triads of D, G with A.
          Over the B chord you can pull from the parent key of E for the A and E triads.
          Who said rock wasn’t complicated.
          I think Brian threw in a twist with the G and C chords.

          John

          • April 24, 2026 at 12:01 pm #413289
            sciencefiction
            Participant

              Thanks, John. Not only are you a great player, but also a music theory savant rock historian as well.

              But overall just to confirm, I would say this song is in the key of E, wouldn’t you?
              Larry

              • April 24, 2026 at 3:07 pm #413291
                charjo
                Moderator

                  Yes, the progression is in E major but to embellish each chord for rhythm you treat the E, A and B chords as if they were each in their own mixolydian key to locate embellishing triads.
                  John

            • April 24, 2026 at 11:04 am #413286
              JoeD1
              Participant

                That was rockin’ and spot on Larry!

                Joe

                The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                --Graeme Edge

              • April 24, 2026 at 3:51 pm #413292
                Michael Krailo
                Participant

                  Good one. I added it to my favorites to back through that one when I have time. For the actual lesson, Brian went direct to his 15 Watt Blues Junior amp cranked up with the volume knob rolled back. Larry, I thought your tone on this one was pretty good as well, of course your playing was great.

                  Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.

                • April 24, 2026 at 5:14 pm #413295
                  Garry
                  Participant

                    Yeah Larry! Rock ‘n’ Roll! 🤘🤘🤘 One of my favourites too. Great playing, great tone and overall cool Stones Vibe. Stones keys can be tricky to pin point. I’m learning a couple at the moment and the key is not always in your face obvious. Fantastic to hear you on the Showcase Forum. All the best! 😎🎸😎

                  • April 25, 2026 at 12:26 am #413307
                    Laurel C
                    Moderator

                      That came out the gate rockin’ and continued with that drive and zest you would expect from the Stones. Awesome job, Larry. (p.s. There are several hooks within this arrangement that you could use for this month’s Hook themed Challenge).

                    • April 25, 2026 at 8:06 am #413318
                      John H
                      Participant

                        Great choice of lesson Larry-You cover it well. I don’t understand half of what Charjo said but hey I’m sure there is some truth in it. I love this style… great tone and energy.

                        John

                      • April 25, 2026 at 5:54 pm #413323
                        Michael Krailo
                        Participant

                          Hey Larry, I just started practicing this yesterday and when I started to play with the backing track it seems like bar #10 that goes to the E is not present in the backing track. That really throws me off when playing the E part against what sounds like A to me. I know it works as written but this is the first time a backing track really threw me off like that. Maybe John knows the theory behind it all, but since it all seems to go back to A early, it makes me want to exclude the bar with the E in it which is clearly wrong. Otherwise a great rocking rhythm lesson.

                          Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.

                          • April 25, 2026 at 7:13 pm #413324
                            sciencefiction
                            Participant

                              Interesting, Michael. I never noticed that. I remember thinking this lesson is harder than it looks, when I was learning it.

                          • April 25, 2026 at 7:32 pm #413325
                            Michael Krailo
                            Participant
                              sciencefiction wrote:

                              Interesting, Michael. I never noticed that. I remember thinking this lesson is harder than it looks, when I was learning it.

                              Well it really confused me when attempting to play with the jam track. Played at full speed, yes it takes some skill, but it’s much more manageable to learn at a slightly slower speed first. The hardest part is that Am/C lick where the B string bend has vibrato on it. I’m getting around that by simply sliding up to the same note that you would bend to and playing the lick in pattern #2 position instead. Going back to B major lick is tough getting the timing right if the previous lick gets screwed up in any way shape or form. Other than that, it’s all doable and I had a lot of fun with it over the weekend so thanks for digging that one out of the archives.

                              Go slow and practice correct technique, and your abilities will dramatically improve.

                            • April 26, 2026 at 7:45 am #413335
                              Helen Lazaridou
                              Participant

                                Welcome back Larry!!!What a great lesson you have chosen!!!I wasn’t aware of it!!!Your rhythm and the tone are perfect!!!Really cool rendition 🤩🤩🤩

                              • April 26, 2026 at 7:04 pm #413395
                                San Luis Rey
                                Participant

                                  Another blast from the past! Thanks for sharing this Larry. We don’t see Brian break out the LP and rock out often but this is a fine example and you played it well.

                                  Mike

                                • April 27, 2026 at 1:21 pm #413479
                                  Dieter
                                  Participant

                                    Wow, that grooves.

                                    Dieter

                                  • April 28, 2026 at 11:03 pm #413638
                                    Liam Innes
                                    Participant

                                      Nicely done man.

                                      These style of lessons are always handy and they get you thinking about more possibilities.

                                      You should check out the other Keith style one Brian did. Full of great ideas similar to this.

                                      Loved it.

                                      Liam.

                                      “We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams. “

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