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    • November 7, 2018 at 5:59 am #115797
      Darrell A
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        What is the best lesson on the 1-4-5 chord progression that I keep hearing. I am not understanding it. Help

        Darrell A

      • November 7, 2018 at 10:14 am #115805
        ranja
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          look at EP327. It will get you started.
          Ron

        • November 7, 2018 at 10:25 am #115806
          Bob S
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            Darrell,
            You might try the beginners lessons, which is at the bottom left of the lessons page. There is a section on the twelve bar blues, which might help.

            In general, you can assign a number to each degree of the major scale. In the key of C for example, the notes of the major scale are C D E F G A B. So if you assign a number to each note of the scale, C would be 1, F would be 4, and G would be 5. So the C chord would be formed by taking every other note resulting in C-E-G. The other chords would be formed the same way starting on their respective roots. Now in blues, all the chords are dominant seventh chords, so the actual spelling of each chord would be C-E-G-Bflat, F-A-C-Eflat, and G-B-D-F.

            A twelve bar blues in C in its most basic form would be be four bars of the one chord (C7), followed by two bars of the four chord (F7), back to two bars of the one chord (C7), followed by one bar of the five chord (G7), one bar of the four chord (F7), then two bars of the one chord (C7). There are variations on this formula, but that is a good starting point. If you wanted to do it in a different key, you would just assign the numbers to that scale, and form the chords in a similar manner.

            Hope that helps.

            Bob

          • November 7, 2018 at 1:33 pm #115813
            sunjamr
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              And then there’s the 1, 5, 4 progression in Keys to the Highway. And the 1, 4, 1, 4 and the 1, 7, 1, 7 often used by the Allman Bros, and the 2, 5, 1 often used by jazz musicians.

              Sunjamr Steve

            • November 7, 2018 at 4:26 pm #115828
              DaveH
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                Hi Darrell,

                I think Ron may have meant EP127. Bob is right about the beginner lessons Module 8 blues Rhythm as good place to start.
                I attached (I think) a basic example that matches what Bob is describing but uses major chords instead of 7ths (7ths are generally considered more bluesy sounding so stick with those if you know them). In the attachment you can see the 12 bars indicated along with the associated 1,4,5 placement in the bars. Hope this helps.

                Dave

              • November 8, 2018 at 5:15 am #115851
                ranja
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                  Sorry, I did intend to say 237 Darrell.
                  Brian breaks down the key of A into numbers.
                  Ron

                • November 8, 2018 at 5:59 am #115852
                  Darrell A
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                    No problem ranja, and thx to all for the info. Maybe I can figure it out. Most of the time I feel like the pic Billy has on forum post, if I perceive it correctly, with the guitar and an overhead swing. I appreciate all the comments and this site has so much to offer. Really glad I joined AM.
                    D

                    Darrell A

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