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Split coil in my guitar,,any experience appreciated! shutup&play guitar tutoria

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    • February 8, 2018 at 10:27 pm #92600
      sunburst
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      • February 9, 2018 at 2:34 am #92608
        6stringer Pete
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          I have split coil on my Les Paul, but really I think the wiring is messed up on it. But what I have noticed is that in the up position on the neck and bridge pickups the tone is much brighter only higher at higher volumes.

          The melody of the notes is what expresses the art of music . 🙂 6stringerPete

          It really is all about ”melody”. The melody comes from a language from our heart. Our heart is the muscle in music harmony. The melody is the sweetness that it pumps into our musical thoughts on the fretboard. 🙂 6 stringer Pete

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        • February 9, 2018 at 4:30 am #92610
          Marty V
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            I think I accidentally split the coils on the install of my new bridge pickup — it’s a lot thinner sounding than it should be. But since it ends up blending well with the neck pickup, I leave it.

            I really like the look of splitting coils using mini-switches, but that usually involves some surgery to the guitar.

            I did have a couple guitars with coil splits in the past. They have their own sound, not really the same as, say, the Fender sound.

            If you’re asking whether you should do it … I think it’s interesting to do if you only have one guitar, or want to be able to change tone within a song. But otherwise, if you have several guitars, I don’t know if it’s really worth it.

          • February 9, 2018 at 6:46 am #92611
            WBlues
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              Marty is right in terms of sound.
              But it’s such a thing with the sound; one likes it, the other not so much.
              It’s best to be able to hear the split pickup to judge if this sound is good. This is only possible with a new purchase. If you want to rebuild your guitar, of course.
              But you do not know if your split sound appeals to you. There are corresponding switches to buy. The switch has three positions. Herewith you can make the parallel and series switching.
              This is not rocket science; nevertheless an effort.
              Ibanez built 58th humbucker and such circuit. Can you listen to YouTube? One thing is for sure, you have a lot of sound variations.
              Splitted, your humbucker sounds very thin. Splitted, your humbucker sounds very thin. Go in the direction of Strat. But only in the direction. In parallel, the sound tells me nothing. But in combination with the bridge pickup again interesting.

              Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.

              Wilfried

            • February 9, 2018 at 10:38 am #92617
              richard t
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                I have split coil settings on my PRS. I don’t care for them. They don’t really sound like a single coil pickup to me. They just sound like a weak pickup. I like the idea of a coil split, but it just doesn’t work for me.

              • February 9, 2018 at 10:46 am #92618
                Chuck H
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                  I have 2 guitars with split coils. A purpose built Benford Guitars double cut with Seymour Duncan P-rails and a Hutchins Venue that has a pair of Sanford Magnetics Model 22 humbucker pickups with the bridge pickup split.

                  The Venue’s bridge pickup is split using a push pull knob that is also the volume control and the single coil tone is very good. I had the original Artec pickups replaced with the Sanford Magnetics humbuckers. I use the Venue as my Open C tuned slide guitar.

                  The Benford is probably the most versatile guitar I own in terms of the amount of different tones available . I’ll leave it to you to look up the P-rails complete specs but basically they are a fat p90 and a rail pickup mated together and you can run them as a p90, a rail, or together as a humbucker. You can see a couple of 3way switches on the Benford that control each pickup. They sound great as humbuckers and darn good as p90’s. The neck p-rail is as good as the neck p90. The bridge p-rail is not my cup of tea on its own but it pairs well with whatever I do with the neck pickup. This guitar is in standard or drop D tuning.

                  Benford double cut. benforguitars.com

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                  Hutchins Venue. (I bought this guitar for about $150 US because Hutchins is my name. Thought it would be a wallhanger. Turns out it’s a great playing guitar and sounds awesome with the upgraded pickups)

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                • February 9, 2018 at 11:40 am #92622
                  Billy
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                    I’m not sure I can hear any difference to be honest, then again I am in shock that someone would play Brown sugar on something that isn’t a tele…
                    Are these split coil things better sounding or different sounding once the volume is turned to ON?…

                    ..Billy..

                  • February 9, 2018 at 1:15 pm #92624
                    Chuck H
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                      Billy wrote:

                      I’m not sure I can hear any difference to be honest, then again I am in shock that someone would play Brown sugar on something that isn’t a tele…
                      Are these split coil things better sounding or different sounding once the volume is turned to ON?…

                      I wonder how many of us learned Brown Sugar on acoustics (cause thats what we had). 🙂

                      Some split coils (Epiphone is an example) seem like a compromise between the 2 pickups. Others are quite articulate between single coil and humbucker.

                    • February 10, 2018 at 8:43 am #92649
                      sunburst
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                        HAPPY Saturday morning everybody, thanks all great replies.. Agree it is a gadget that is here to tinker with to simulate a preferred tone but noway replace authentic tones ,, as Billy mentioned, I would use my Tele for the brown sugar (have to change them string 9s .but I just wanted to show and ask others opinions.I guess split coil option with any guitar offers additional tonality settings, but won’t necessarily (unlikely to duplicate) any particular mainstream model such as a tele lp SG strat etc. but than than without a split coil less settings to get closer to those tones.I think that is why they are installed but it is an optional feature.I imagine the difference would be much more prevailing playing live on stage rather on a practice bed room amp.lol.. cheers!

                      • February 10, 2018 at 11:26 pm #92692
                        Billy R
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                          So my 2010 ’59 reissue Les Paul has split coils in it from the custom shop. It’s a huge difference in sound! Basically makes the Gibson sound like a Strat in my opinion. I rarely use it though. I like a Gibson to sound like a Gibson and a Strat to sound like a Strat haha. Splitting the coils in the LP makes it very bright sounding. I prefer a warmer tone from my Gibsons.

                        • February 11, 2018 at 2:40 am #92694
                          Marty V
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                            Billy R wrote:

                            I like a Gibson to sound like a Gibson and a Strat to sound like a Strat haha.

                            Perfect!

                          • February 12, 2018 at 3:20 pm #92793
                            Duffy P
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                              Bridge pickup on my PRS Vela has a coil split. PRS does a thing where they add like 30% of the inactive pickups coils to the split, which is supposed to alleviate the volume loss when splitting. It does do that, there barely is any volume loss. And the splitting gives a brighter, thinner quality to the bridge pick-up. So it sounds different to me, and good, but it doesn’t sound like a single coil pickup (except for the hum). I think there is something that is inevitably different between single coils and split hum buckers. You can’t really shut a passive magnet off, and I think the proximity has an effect, even when the pickup is split.

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