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Patterns Major and Minor Scales

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    • August 21, 2025 at 3:44 am #399554
      Paul E
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        A newbie question but you say there are 5 patterns for the Major Scale. Do I have this right that they are the same patterns for all Keys etc. It all depends on where you start the pattern, for example wherever the Root Note is. The G Major Scale Pattern 1 starts down on the 3rd fret 6th string (G note) for the first pattern. Does Pattern 1 always stay on the 3rd fret? For example if I switched keys to playing Pattern 1 for the B Major scale it would start with the B not on the 5th string using the same pattern 1 as was used for the G Major scale.
        Or am I confusing it.
        Thank you for any advice

      • August 21, 2025 at 6:16 am #399556
        charjo
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          Sounds like there still some confusion, Paul.
          Unfortunately, some confusion can occur because there are two ways of numbering the major scale boxes. One system names the major and minor boxes where they overlap and share the same root notes in the same area of the fret board. The other system names the boxes where they are the same shape, ie pattern 1 minor starts with the index finger, pattern 1 major starts in the same box with the pinky. The first system makes more sense but the second system is easier for beginners to memorize.
          Using the first system, you had the first part right. The patterns are the same for each key. Pattern 1, G major, starts on the 3rd fret, 6th string. B major would start on the B note, 7th fret, 6th string.
          Pattern 2 for G major would start on the 5th fret, 6th string and B major would start on the 9th fret, 6th string.
          Having said all that, Brian uses the second system of identical shapes for major and minor.
          Now this is very confusing. If you played the notes of pattern 1 G major starting on the B of the 2nd fret, 5th string, the series of intervals will actually give you the B “phrygian” minor scale. This gets into a more advanced concept called “modes of the major scale” that you don’t want to confuse yourself with just yet.
          Let me know if I have really befuddled you now.
          John

        • August 23, 2025 at 5:29 am #399591
          Paul E
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            Thank you for the response I am getting there,, excellent courses with so much information in them. I am just trying to make them stick.

            • September 16, 2025 at 9:12 am #400661
              Alan L
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                I think the key for me was not trying to do too much. Pick one pattern, or even just 3 strings of one pattern, and practice that every day for a week before moving on.

            • September 13, 2025 at 5:15 pm #400396
              Darrell A
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                Another newbie question. I signed up not knowing about scales. All of the beginning lessons Brian keeps mentioning the pentatonic scale and I can’t find a lesson teaching the this day concept. Suggestions?

                • September 16, 2025 at 7:25 am #400649
                  Alan L
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                    You can use the search bar for “pentatonic” on the weekly lesson page and get many results.

                    And if you find the “my courses” menu there is a lead guitar course that walks you through the pentatonics.

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                • September 21, 2025 at 4:08 pm #400797
                  Darrell A
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                    Thanks Alan!

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