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Participate in the September 2024 Site Member Challenge!

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  • This topic has 29 replies, 12 voices, and was last updated 12 months ago by Brian D.
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    • September 10, 2024 at 2:29 pm #378112
      Brian
      Keymaster

        Hi Active Melody family!

        It’s September, 2024 Site Member Challenge time!

        For this month’s challenge, I wanted to use a suggestion from site member, “Jeff”. He recommended that I provide some chords and essentially see what everyone does with that set of chords. No limitation on tempo, style, etc, the only limitation is adhering to the provided chords. I like these types of challenges because it keeps it interesting to see what everyone comes up with!

        The chords are: A minor, D minor, G, and E – OR, as alternative, you could do A minor, D minor, G, and C (just changing that last chord to a C). Be sure to use them in that order!

        You can do anything you want with those chords – rhythm, lead, combination, solo composition, lead over a jam track, fast, slow, blues, rock, death metal, etc. ok, maybe no death metal.

        The submission date for this challenge will be Sunday, October 6 – you can start submitting Friday, October 4

        **If you need assistance with how to record yourself and post to the forum see this post**

        _______________

        GROUND RULES FOR PARTICIPATION:

        1. Post your Youtube, Vimeo, or Soundcloud links of you playing your chosen lesson anytime between Friday, October 4, through Sunday, October 6, 10:00 pm CST. Please do not submit earlier. I think it is fun to see everyone’s posts at once.

        2. Submit individually in the “Active Melody Member Challenge Response Submissions” forum. Title your posts “September 2024 Challenge Response – [Your AM Screen Name]”

        3. Please submit only a single video or audio file for this challenge.

        4. Have fun and don’t be intimidated by these challenges!!! Use these challenges to help you set goals and complete them by a deadline. You can also use this as an opportunity to chat with your fellow Active Melody members and share tips or tricks on this challenge that you think are useful.

        5. In my opinion, it is better to show progress versus perfection with these challenges. So if you are a beginner and can only play the first couple of measures. That is completely ok. If you play two more measures of the next challenge piece than you did the previous one, you are on track to getting better. This is what these challenges are about…you learning guitar and getting better. Remember we are all here to support you no matter what your current playing level is.

        I look forward to seeing everyone’s posts! 🙂

      • September 10, 2024 at 6:55 pm #378136
        Byron
        Participant

          Sweet sounds fun!! Ill have to get in on that as well! 🙂

          Byron

        • September 10, 2024 at 7:35 pm #378137
          Byron
          Participant

            Question! Do you have to use all the chords in said tune or can you take one or two out? I just dont know about having two minor chords in a chord progression, sounds kinda off to me lol.

            Byron

          • September 11, 2024 at 12:50 pm #378153
            Tremelow
            Participant

              Just to be certain: chords should be kept in that order, right?!

              • September 11, 2024 at 3:00 pm #378157
                JoeD1
                Participant

                  Brian didn’t specify the chords need to be in any certain order…🙃

                  Joe

                  The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                  Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                  --Graeme Edge

                  • September 13, 2024 at 6:45 am #378234
                    JoeD1
                    Participant

                      I take it back…I just listened again and he said this was a chord progression so I guess they should be kept in the order he gave.

                      Joe

                      The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                      Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                      --Graeme Edge

                    • September 13, 2024 at 9:47 am #378242
                      Brian
                      Keymaster

                        Yes, in that order 🙂 good catch.

                      • September 13, 2024 at 9:45 am #378240
                        Brian
                        Keymaster

                          Yes! I have clarified in the description. Good catch.

                      • September 12, 2024 at 8:24 am #378182
                        Jonathan Amos
                        Participant

                          In the video he talks about a fixed chord progression in a minor key but in the description he talks about a set of four chords which we can do anything we like with. I’m hoping the latter is OK, I think forcing everyone to stick to the same chord sequence would result in a lot of mediocre and boring compositions. We need some room to move around in and get creative.

                          Jonathan Amos, Matsuyama, Japan

                          The farther one travels the less one knows.

                      • September 12, 2024 at 7:41 am #378180
                        charjo
                        Moderator

                          Death metal it is, lol😈.
                          John

                          • September 12, 2024 at 5:35 pm #378204
                            Bill
                            Participant

                              It’s a slippery slope for you after all that gain in the August challenge! 🤘

                          • September 12, 2024 at 1:23 pm #378193
                            Mr. Larry P
                            Participant

                              If this is A minor scale chord progression the E should be Em. I just played it as an E major and it sounds OK. I prefer the C major.

                              A-Minor Scale Progression / Sequence:

                              A-Minor B-Diminished C-Major D-Minor E-Minor F-Major G-Major

                              It’s a 1, 4, 5, 7 progression as I’m seeing it. If you play it as a C instead of E it’s perhaps a 1, 3, 4, 7 progression.

                              Not sure this make any sense but I was just trying to figure out what is being asked. I’m thinking you don’t need to play this progression only in one sequence but mix it up as you see fit, otherwise as someone said it will be very boring if everyone plays the same progression.

                              Mr. Larry

                              • September 12, 2024 at 5:35 pm #378203
                                Bill
                                Participant

                                  C should work as the relative major if Am. So you’ve got Am to Dm (being the minor v of G), then G which is the V of C, then switch back to minor.

                                  • September 13, 2024 at 9:46 am #378241
                                    Brian
                                    Keymaster

                                      I was thinking that they should be played in that order. sorry i forgot to mention that!

                                • September 13, 2024 at 2:08 am #378230
                                  Jean-Michel G
                                  Participant
                                    Mr. Larry P wrote:

                                    If this is A minor scale chord progression the E should be Em. I just played it as an E major and it sounds OK. I prefer the C major.

                                    A-Minor Scale Progression / Sequence:

                                    A-Minor B-Diminished C-Major D-Minor E-Minor F-Major G-Major

                                    It’s a 1, 4, 5, 7 progression as I’m seeing it. If you play it as a C instead of E it’s perhaps a 1, 3, 4, 7 progression.

                                    The chord on the fifth degree of a minor scale is minor only for the natural minor scale.
                                    In tonal music, minor keys usually use a major (seventh) chord on the fifth scale degree; in the A minor key that means E7 instead of Em7.
                                    The reason for this is that in the V7 -> i (E7 -> Am) cadence is much preferred over the v7 -> i (Em7 -> Am) cadence.

                                    In order to be able to play a V7 instead of a v7, the 7th degree of the scale needs to be raised by a semitone; this turns the natural minor scale into the harmonic minor scale: A B C D E F G# A.
                                    Melodically, G# -> A is also much stronger than G -> A.

                                    If you stick to the natural minor scale, you get a modal feel (Aeolian in this case); if you do, it is a good idea to enforce the bVII chord (G in this case).

                                    Songs in minor keys are often ambiguous and mix several harmonic environments (natural, harmonic, melodic, …).

                                  • September 14, 2024 at 3:09 pm #378289
                                    Byron
                                    Participant
                                      JoeD1 wrote:

                                      I take it back…I just listened again and he said this was a chord progression so I guess they should be kept in the order he gave.

                                      He did say combination though, which i take that the chords can be in any order? Or am i wrong?

                                      Byron

                                    • September 14, 2024 at 3:13 pm #378290
                                      Byron
                                      Participant

                                        I dont mind if its the same chord sequence that everyone has to do but 2 minor chords sounds off, all im saying. Ive tried like 3 different rhythms and its just off but if thats what you want then its ok! Ill figure something out! Lol 😀

                                        Byron

                                      • September 14, 2024 at 3:17 pm #378292
                                        Byron
                                        Participant
                                          Bill wrote:

                                          It’s a slippery slope for you after all that gain in the August challenge! 🤘

                                          Who me? Naww! Cant be me lol.

                                          Byron

                                        • September 14, 2024 at 3:18 pm #378293
                                          Byron
                                          Participant
                                            charjo wrote:

                                            Death metal it is, lol😈.
                                            John

                                            I agree haha! FOR DEATH METAL! 🙂

                                            Byron

                                          • September 14, 2024 at 3:23 pm #378294
                                            Byron
                                            Participant
                                              Byron wrote:
                                              JoeD1 wrote:

                                              I take it back…I just listened again and he said this was a chord progression so I guess they should be kept in the order he gave.

                                              He did say combination though, which i take that the chords can be in any order? Or am i wrong?

                                              Ok i just read what you said, its gotta be in that order! Gotcha! Even though 2 minor chords in a sequence Blah! Lol.

                                              Byron

                                            • September 15, 2024 at 2:57 am #378302
                                              Jean-Michel G
                                              Participant
                                                Byron wrote:

                                                Ok i just read what you said, its gotta be in that order! Gotcha! Even though 2 minor chords in a sequence Blah! Lol.

                                                There must be a billion pieces and songs out there with that chord progression! You should probably listen again…
                                                It’s just a minor i – iv – V progression, the esquivaient of a major I – IV – V.

                                              • September 15, 2024 at 3:13 am #378304
                                                Richard G
                                                Participant

                                                  I’m intrigued and also baffled by the confusion over the next Challenge criteria. Brian said, “those are the progressions’ If someone in your band shouted “the next number’s in Am, Dm, G, & E”

                                                  Would you then consider playing those chords in any other sequence? You’d get some funny looks from the rest of your band members if you did.

                                                  I rest my case m’Lord

                                                  Richard

                                                  • September 15, 2024 at 6:41 am #378315
                                                    JoeD1
                                                    Participant

                                                      Richard, it just seems odd to have a i iv VII V progression (or i iv VII III if you use C). It sounded quite odd at first but it’s growing on me.

                                                      Joe

                                                      The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                                                      Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                                                      --Graeme Edge

                                                  • September 15, 2024 at 4:08 am #378307
                                                    Byron
                                                    Participant
                                                      Jean-Michel G wrote:
                                                      Byron wrote:

                                                      Ok i just read what you said, its gotta be in that order! Gotcha! Even though 2 minor chords in a sequence Blah! Lol.

                                                      There must be a billion pieces and songs out there with that chord progression! You should probably listen again…
                                                      It’s just a minor i – iv – V progression, the esquivaient of a major I – IV – V.

                                                      True!! Im glad its all summed up now though!

                                                      Byron

                                                    • September 15, 2024 at 4:49 am #378309
                                                      John H
                                                      Participant

                                                        Am I the only one feeling like this is an ‘odd’ chord progression? Not making any sense to me.

                                                        JH

                                                      • September 16, 2024 at 7:57 am #378353
                                                        Byron
                                                        Participant
                                                          John H wrote:

                                                          Am I the only one feeling like this is an ‘odd’ chord progression? Not making any sense to me.

                                                          JH

                                                          Nope I agree as well!

                                                          Byron

                                                        • September 17, 2024 at 7:28 am #378388
                                                          John H
                                                          Participant

                                                            After careful consideration, consultation and experimentation, the chord progression makes better sense.
                                                            Playing the A minor-D minor-G maj-Bsus-C maj-works nicely.
                                                            I just added the Bsus before the C major and it serves as a nice passing chord right into the C major. Or, you can walk into the C with a simple B note; amongst other things. I think this is going to work.

                                                            John H.

                                                          • September 17, 2024 at 8:20 am #378392
                                                            Jean-Michel G
                                                            Participant
                                                              John H wrote:

                                                              After careful consideration, consultation and experimentation, the chord progression makes better sense.
                                                              Playing the A minor-D minor-G maj-Bsus-C maj-works nicely.
                                                              I just added the Bsus before the C major and it serves as a nice passing chord right into the C major. Or, you can walk into the C with a simple B note; amongst other things. I think this is going to work.

                                                              John H.

                                                              I really don’t understand why you guys have such a problem!
                                                              The progression
                                                              |Am – – – |Dm – – – |G – – – |C – – – |
                                                              |Am – – – |Dm – – – | … etc…
                                                              is a simple |vi – – – |ii – – – |V – – – |I – – – | in C major… There is no better chord to resolve to C than G(7) – which already contains a B note, by the way.

                                                              Granted, the chord progression doesn’t start with the tonic chord. But there are millions of songs, jazz and classical pieces that don’t start with the tonic chord!

                                                              Playing
                                                              |Am – – – |Dm – – – |G – – – |E(7) – – – |
                                                              |Am – – – |Dm – – – | …etc…
                                                              is an equally straightforward |i – – – |iv – – – |bVII – – – |V(7) – – – | progression in A minor (which does start on the tonic chord).

                                                              What is it that trips you off?

                                                              • September 17, 2024 at 12:23 pm #378400
                                                                JoeD1
                                                                Participant

                                                                  I think my problem was how it sounded when playing Am – Dm – G – E without using 7 chords. It just sounded much different than what I prefer. You can apply whatever theory you like but if it doesn’t sound good…😊

                                                                  I did however make it work with some 7 chords and arpeggiation and think it sounds pretty good.

                                                                  Joe

                                                                  The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                                                                  Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                                                                  --Graeme Edge

                                                                • September 29, 2024 at 12:18 am #378850
                                                                  Brian D
                                                                  Participant

                                                                    Agreed. Both Am-Dm-G-E and Am-Dm-G-C work fine in the key of Am… in fact they go well together. Besides, restraints like this provide a fertile environment for creativity. Gotta think outside the box when stuck inside the fence.

                                                                    Being new, I’d thought to sit out these challenges for a while, but I may just give this a shot…

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