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Hi Sharon, I have both those pedals, but I have never had a need to connect them together. In fact, after I switched to a Blackstar tube amp, I have never bothered to use the noise suppressor again….because there is no noise to be suppressed. If I had a major AC hum coming through my system, I would just go guitar > noise suppressor > RC-3 > amp. That is, the noise suppressor should always be the first pedal your guitar sees. But if I were you, I would try to figure out how to avoid having to use a noise suppressor. After trying all kinds of experiments, the thing that was most effective for me was to just switch to a tube amp. I think any tube amp will do. Next on the list was to get good quality shielded guitar cables. Also, as you know, humbuckers and noiseless single coil pickups are way quieter than plain single coil pickups.
Sunjamr Steve
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Thanks Sunjamr for your response.
I just bought the Roland Jazz Chorus 22 amp to use with my LP. Nice amp but a lot of white noise. I was hoping the Noise Suppressor pedal would help…need to connect cable the RC3 to it as well. Don’t know if I should run return cables.
Love playing Jazz and Brian’s weekly lessons are awesome!
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Sharon ,
Steve is right on the money. I just sold my RC3 and my RC50 is on the way out the door as I moved into the 300 model just couldn’t resist and the right deal showed up. At one time there was a terrible hum in my system also, it turned out to be a cheap patch cable I was trying to get by with. Got rid of the cable and the noise also went away. The other thing I will add is watch your power supply, if on battery shouldn’t be an issue, if you are using AC make sure it is a good clean supply don’t use cheap a supply. Boss supplies usually have a filter inline. The only other thing is where to put the pedal? I run my RC300 through the FX loop in the back of the amp. I do actually have a reason for that, the FX loop will record what you are playing but if you run it ahead of the preamp it can cause problems in my experience. Different amps may behave differently , just with my rig it seems to be much cleaner through the FX loop. But I haven’t played every amp in the world and I certainly don’t know everything by a long shot, that is just what I experienced. Check your cables make sure you don’t have a cheapy in there, just got to be systematic , one thing at a time then test , you will find it.
J-JMontana, USA
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Ordinary mortals should not have to use an effects loop, and I would guess that very few guitarists even know what are the benefits of using an effects loop. But noise suppression is not one of them. Here’s what effects loops are used for:
In my experience, the Return outputs of 99.9% of effects pedals out there are just gathering dust. If you were a professional guitar player and had a huge 1000 watt stage amp head and a separate pre-amp, and you wanted to fine tune your reverb or overdrive, then you would have a good case for setting up an effects loop. But if you just want to conduct a scientific experiment to see if you can hear any difference, why not try it? No harm done. And let us know what you discover.
Still, your amp is a very good one, so the culprit must be either in your guitar or cable. One time I had a situation where a nearby inverter type air conditioner was causing a hum in my equipment. I turned it off, and the noise stopped. Why don’t you borrow a guitar with humbucker pickups and plug it in to see what happens? If you live in New Zealand, you can borrow one of mine.
And finally, does the hum get louder when you touch any metal part of your guitar? If so, that’s because your body is acting as an RF (radio frequency) antenna, and your hum is coming from some nearby RF source. Could be fluorescent lights, or an air conditioner, or ???
I also assume you know that a noise suppressor only suppresses noise when the signal from the guitar is very quiet. That is, as soon as you start playing, it is no longer suppressing any noise. It’s just that the guitar is drowning out the noise so you don’t notice it. So try this: connect up the noise suppressor, then hit a single note and listen to what happens. As the note gets quieter and starts to fade away, at some point the noise suppressor kicks in and the note is suddenly cut off and you get silence. You can adjust the cutoff point, of course.
Let us know how you get on, Sharon. We are a friendly bunch and are here to help each other.
Sunjamr Steve
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You shouldn’t get grounding issues with a humbucker pickup or the RC3 for that matter.
Anyway various devices can cause magnetic noise, computers wifi bluetooth etc.. which is picked up on cables I had a case of dimmable light buzzing at one stage. Bought a shielded mains cable for my amp and that cured most of it.
So move it round the house see if your getting the same problem, it could just be in a noisy place
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