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4/4 time with 2 bars of 2/4 time

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    • May 29, 2024 at 12:12 pm #371166
      JoeD1
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        I’m practicing a bass guitar piece which is in 4/4 time but there are 3 bars where it goes to 2/4 time (at the end of each verse) and immediately returns to 4/4 time. I’m having difficulties counting this. Would anybody be able to explain how I count it? I’ve included a snippet of the tab below.

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        Joe

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        Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
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      • May 29, 2024 at 2:38 pm #371171
        JoeD1
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          Should the dotted quarter note be counted 1&2 with the eighth note counted &?

          Joe

          The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
          Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
          --Graeme Edge

          • May 29, 2024 at 2:46 pm #371174
            JoLa
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              Yep, you got it 👍

              🎸JoLa

          • May 29, 2024 at 2:46 pm #371173
            JoLa
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              Hi Joe,

              The dot at the quarter note extends the note’s length by 50% so you would count it as “1 and 2” and then play the eighth note at “and” and then back to “1and2and3and4and” at 4/4 time (next bar).
              Hard to explain it in words but hope this helps.

              🎸JoLa

            • May 29, 2024 at 5:01 pm #371177
              JoeD1
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                Thanks YoLa. I’ve never seen a 4/4 time signature with a single bar of 2/4 in each verse and it threw me for a loop!

                Now, it’s also in the rhythm tab and this one I can’t figure out and have no idea how to count. I think the 16th notes are confusing me.

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                Joe

                The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                --Graeme Edge

              • May 29, 2024 at 5:39 pm #371180
                JoLa
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                  Ok, so this one involves some math skills 😄

                  Break everything down to the lowest denominator, in this case the 16th notes.
                  As you know 1/4 = 2/8 = 4/16
                  Therefore 2/4 = 4/8 = 8/16
                  So in the signature of 2/4 you have 8 16th notes.

                  You can count them as 1 e & uh, 2 e & uh

                  In this case you get: 1e & uh, 2 e &uh (and then you hold it for another quarter note in the next bar)

                  🎸JoLa

                • May 30, 2024 at 6:42 am #371192
                  JoeD1
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                    There are 6 strums in that bar and, if I understand you correctly, it would go something like this, right?

                    1 e – & – uh – 2 – e – & uh (which ties over the next bar for another 1/4 note)

                    Joe

                    The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                    Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                    --Graeme Edge

                    • May 30, 2024 at 8:04 am #371225
                      JoLa
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                        That’s correct

                        🎸JoLa

                    • May 30, 2024 at 9:24 am #371226
                      JoeD1
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                        Thank you JoLa!

                        Joe

                        The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                        Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                        --Graeme Edge

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