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May 2025 C.R. – Ah Ha – Bobby Ut

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    • June 7, 2025 at 5:58 pm #395232
      Bob Utberg
      Participant

        SSL (sorry so late)
        What makes the Blues The Blues??? Flatting that 7th – eh! And, breaking all the rules of “Harmony”
        LOL – tell that to Robert Johnson and BB King and Muddy Waters and . . . . and so on!!!

        Bob U. (aka Bobby Ut)

      • June 7, 2025 at 6:31 pm #395236
        AndréM
        Participant

          Very nice presentation Bobby.
          I think this was a ah-ah for a lot of us.
          Well done.

          AndréM

          AndréM

        • June 7, 2025 at 6:58 pm #395237
          JoLa
          Participant

            That’s a good one, Bobby!

            Very good presentation, I enjoyed it.

            Your blues playing was awesome, you’re a natural bluesman! 😉

            🎸JoLa

          • June 7, 2025 at 10:29 pm #395248
            sunjamr
            Participant

              My question goes deeper: When did humans first decide that a flat 7 was a good idea? And why? What is the earliest known use of the blues scale? Apparently some of us hear things differently, because my granddaughter says she does not hear a note played an octave higher as being the same as the lower note. So why do most of us immediately recognize notes an octave apart as being the same note?

              Google AI says the blues scale was first recognized in the 1930s, but it may have been used outside of the mainstream for some time before that. I have to confess, I’ve never heard a blues scale used in classical music. But why not?

              Sunjamr Steve

              • June 8, 2025 at 5:00 am #395357
                Bill
                Participant

                  For a long time, in the classical Western traditions at least, music was a very rules based system. Even the music that was printed for folks to play at home was written by professional composers. There are flat 7ths in things like the harmonic minor scale which is used in classical music a bunch, but it’s not the blues.
                  My guess is once folks with no formal music education started picking up banjos and guitars and messing around and playing what they felt it all came out.

              • June 8, 2025 at 2:37 am #395299
                Martin W
                Participant

                  Nice presentation Bob , you sure got the blues in you , and have a fine repertoire of blues classics , love the way you just launched into SRV on the fly …..👌

                  Martin

                • June 8, 2025 at 4:45 am #395350
                  Dieter
                  Participant

                    Great interesting performance.

                    Dieter

                  • June 8, 2025 at 4:56 am #395356
                    Bill
                    Participant

                      Fun presentation Bobby. Was wondering about the “Funk” shirt when you started talking about the Blues 🙃
                      Big aha for sure, thanks!

                    • June 8, 2025 at 5:14 am #395359
                      Laurel C
                      Moderator

                        You make everything so interesting Bobby and a musical journey down memory lane. The flat 7 a documentary in the making. 🎵

                      • June 8, 2025 at 7:29 am #395411
                        charjo
                        Moderator

                          You hit the nail on the head, Bobby.
                          When I was a young teenager listening to Jimi Hendrix, James Gang, Ten Years After, Grand Funk Railroad, Rolling Stones, Steppenwolf, I knew I loved the sound but had no idea “the blues” is what was underneath it all.
                          John

                        • June 8, 2025 at 8:18 am #395431
                          Denise
                          Participant

                            Great light bulb! The Blues with the flat 7 is the best musical invention😁.
                            I like your rhythm examples👍.

                            Hope you had a great holiday in Italy and Switzerland.

                            Denise

                            More Blues!

                          • June 8, 2025 at 9:30 am #395443
                            Richard G
                            Participant

                              Nice presentation Bobby, the flat 7 was certainly a note or sound that took my attention immediately when I started to play guitar.

                              Richard

                            • June 8, 2025 at 9:50 am #395446
                              Alan L
                              Participant

                                Nice lightbulb Bob! The magic of tension. Progressively adding more blue notes; b7, b3, b5…. The way to be Blue 😎

                              • June 8, 2025 at 10:51 am #395452
                                Jennifer D
                                Participant

                                  I love the flat 7! You are very good at these videos!

                                • June 8, 2025 at 11:02 am #395456
                                  Manfred M
                                  Participant

                                    It’s even more than an aha moment., Bob. That’s the foundation of why we all love that blues sound. Like John I always loved those blues oriented bands in the 70’s (Ten Years After, Rory Gallagher, Jimi Hendrix etc.) but I didn’t really know what it was about that sound that I liked so much. If I had seen your video back then, I would have known.

                                    Take the chance to meet your AM friends on Zoom
                                    The next Meetup will probably take place in July/August 2025

                                    There will be a detailed announcement here in the forum in good time.

                                    I look forward to meet you.
                                    Manfred

                                  • June 8, 2025 at 12:02 pm #395475
                                    James B
                                    Participant

                                      You’re “flat” out right, Bob. The note that inspired us all. Ah Ha! That sounds cool!

                                      James

                                    • June 8, 2025 at 2:14 pm #395498
                                      Paul S.
                                      Participant

                                        This was some really useful info, especially when you started putting it in context of some great songs.
                                        Some of us longtime players start taking the 7ths for granted after a while and it was nice that you snapped me back to an awareness of the fundamental heart of the blues.

                                        Nice tone on that git, too.

                                      • June 8, 2025 at 3:38 pm #395515
                                        John H
                                        Participant

                                          Roberto
                                          So yeah that’s a neat concept. I saw Muddy Waters open for the Outlaws at the Civic Arena (long before I was old enough to know better) and was blown away by that ‘blues sound’ cemented by the Dominant 7th sound. I didn’t know Muddy from Adam but walked out of there appreciating the blues as much or more than the Florida Guitar Army. Rock on bro

                                          John

                                        • June 8, 2025 at 5:39 pm #395537
                                          JoeD1
                                          Participant

                                            Nice Bob! Entertaining and informative. Loved the SRV and James Gang examples.

                                            Joe

                                            The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                                            Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                                            --Graeme Edge

                                          • June 8, 2025 at 6:44 pm #395548
                                            Pap
                                            Participant

                                              Hey Bobby, those are some good examples and I agree (and so does Brian according to many of his lessons) …I love funk 49…one of my favorite jams! Pap

                                            • June 8, 2025 at 10:26 pm #395586
                                              KT
                                              Participant

                                                Hi Bobby
                                                Enjoyed your presentation on the foundations of blues and blues giants use of “blue notes”
                                                Look forward to learning more!
                                                KT

                                              • June 9, 2025 at 4:59 am #395607
                                                Mark T
                                                Participant

                                                  I always look forward to your presentations, Bob, and this once didn’t disappoint – entertaining, great explanation and demonstration. – Mark 👍🎶😎

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