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Robinson’s May

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  • This topic has 22 replies, 11 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 8 months ago by Geoff.
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    • January 17, 2024 at 10:09 pm #361843
      Geoff
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        This is a beautiful Renaissance era piece by the English composer Thomas Robinson. It’s a piece I find easy to learn but very hard to perform. I did many takes recording this to get something even close to what I found satisfactory. Every wrong note or hard hit on a string stands out like a sore thumb on this one – I had to really lighten up on the right hand to get this sounding right.

        I play a solo version followed by a duet version. Thanks for listening and I hope you enjoy this one.

      • January 17, 2024 at 11:49 pm #361845
        Dieter
        Participant

          Congratulations Geoff, both versions are very sensitively interpreted. It creates a real Renaissance atmosphere.

          • January 20, 2024 at 7:47 am #361906
            Geoff
            Participant

              Thanks Dieter. Sorry we couldn’t work together on this one.

          • January 18, 2024 at 6:25 am #361848
            Helen Lazaridou
            Participant

              Dear Geoff!To my inexperienced ears this playing sounds perfect!especially the way you managed to synchronize in the second part both pieces!!!!I really do hope that you are absolutely satisfied with the final result!and the photo editing made it even more enjoyable!!!💕💗💓

              • January 20, 2024 at 8:10 am #361907
                Geoff
                Participant

                  That part actually took some doing Helen. This piece was not technically difficult at all for me to play but the parts come in on half beats. You will get things like a two beat pause on one bar followed by a half beat on the next bar – I literally had to count the bars in some spots. So, yes, synchronizing the two parts had it’s challenges for sure.

                  I am always trying to make the videos look good and the photo editing is just fun to do. You will be mastering that kind of thing pretty soon I am sure.

              • January 18, 2024 at 6:43 am #361850
                Mark T
                Participant

                  Really beautiful, Geoff, on both recordings👏👏👏! I too hope you can see the tremendous leaps you’ve taken in recording and synchronising two parts, as well as in your audio mixing and video editing skills. I hope you occasionally take the time to sit back and reflect, in the same way we are able to just relax, sit back and let your wonderful performances wash over us 👍🎶😎

                  • January 20, 2024 at 8:17 am #361908
                    Geoff
                    Participant

                      Hi there Mark. I think I take a page out of yours’s and Dieter’s book with the video editing – I just like to produce the best presentation I can when put this stuff up on a public forum and for the rest of the world to see. Like you say, I am getting better all the time at the video recording and editing – progress is slow but it’s fun and frustrating at the same time.

                      I do sit back and reflect just like you say. When I do that I always see things I could have done better. The acoustics in my room are not that good and my guitar(s) sound kind of flat – I think I am going to need to “cheat” and add in a little reverb to some of my solo performances. Not happy about that because I have always been a purist when it comes to playing classical guitar music.

                  • January 18, 2024 at 6:46 am #361851
                    JoeD1
                    Participant

                      Beautifully played Geoff! It sounded like you got the feeling quite well in both versions. I was slightly distracted during the duet by playing the game “What’s different in these two pictures?” because your Yamaha and a picture were missing from the wall. 😆 Seriously though, that was truly wonderful and very well played.

                      Joe

                      The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                      Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                      --Graeme Edge

                      • January 20, 2024 at 8:21 am #361909
                        Geoff
                        Participant

                          Thank you so much Joe. I always appreciate your listening and your support – I hope you know that.

                          Aha. Camera angles. I keep trying to find the best way to frame myself and I still haven’t figured it out. Generally, I like to put the camera quite far back so I can capture everything int he frame – the downside of that is I literally have to walk to the other side of the room to turn the camera on then go back and turn the DAW recording on then sit down, breathe and play. Easier with the camera closer but it doesn’t look as good. I went closer on the solo part.

                      • January 18, 2024 at 8:44 am #361853
                        Ken
                        Participant

                          Geoff all the work really paid off. You get better with each recording.
                          I like both versions. Thanks for sharing.

                          Ken F

                          • January 20, 2024 at 8:22 am #361910
                            Geoff
                            Participant

                              Thanks Ken. It is certainly not for lack of trying i can tell you that 🙂

                          • January 18, 2024 at 9:09 am #361857
                            Anonymous

                              Wow Geoff. That was really impressive. Classical guitar always amazes me. Watching your left hand movements during that and it just seems really really difficult to do. Great job, sounded great, especially with the two guitar part’s together.

                              Cheers,

                              Marc

                              • January 20, 2024 at 8:24 am #361911
                                Geoff
                                Participant

                                  Thanks for giving this a listen Mark. Classical guitar is really difficult to do – technically, I find it a lot harder than any other style but I also find it the most satisfying and I love the music.

                              • January 18, 2024 at 11:42 am #361858
                                David L
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                                  Well done, as always, Geoff. Classical guitar is so far less forgiving than most of the popular music we hear and play these days. Your renditions are always spot-on. Kudos to you, sir.

                                  • January 20, 2024 at 8:30 am #361912
                                    Geoff
                                    Participant

                                      Thank you David. I hope things are well with you. Sorry I have not got back to you about us doing something together. I keep getting caught up with stuff like this. Working on a Spanish Flamenco / Classical piece called Layenda by Isaac Albeniz – ever heard it ?

                                      The piece is absolute murder to play and it is sucking up all my time. I will put it up on this forum if I can get it good enough but I am not sure – my hands are not what they used to be and the slow section is just killing me to get down.

                                  • January 23, 2024 at 5:37 pm #361962
                                    Richard W
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                                      Great job, Geoff! Nice change of pace from the flamenco pieces you’ve been working on lately. I could see where the timing on that duet arrangement would be challenging, but you nailed it and it creates some really cool counterpoints. Congratulations!

                                      • January 24, 2024 at 9:44 am #361987
                                        Geoff
                                        Participant

                                          Thanks Richard. I have actually been going at it so hard on the Flamenco stuff, I have decided to step right back for a bit and focus on “Easy” classical pieces a bit more. I am trying to find the easiest pieces I can get and work those with a strong focus on getting the best sound I can out of them – it’ a great way to reset.

                                      • January 24, 2024 at 7:17 am #361982
                                        John H
                                        Participant

                                          Phenomenal and truly enjoyable Geoff. I love the mic’d up nylon tone. And the duet is just a wonderful listen. Thank you for sharing. This is guitar as it should be played. Reminds of when Segovia once said “Rock and roll is for morons.” Lol. Be well my friend.

                                          JH

                                        • January 24, 2024 at 9:51 am #361989
                                          Geoff
                                          Participant

                                            Thanks John, this is a very beautiful piece that Dieter gave me. We were going to do the duet together but, on account of him not finding the time, I decided to go it alone on this one.

                                            One thing that drove me nuts is I really wanted to get the same tone as this guy in the link below. I was so frustrated that I could not do it but I did discover one secret : adding just a tiny bit of reverb. It’s cheating but I do not have great acoustics in my room so I feel I am justified doing it. As for Segovia’s comment : I say we should never diss something we can’t do ourselves and I am pretty sure Segovia could not do “Rock and Roll”. (Sadly, there is a lot of snobbery in the classical world as I am sure you know all too well.)

                                            • January 25, 2024 at 7:54 am #362000
                                              JoeD1
                                              Participant

                                                Hi Geoff. I also like his tone and I’ll bet he has done a lot of tweaking with plugins like reverb, delay, presence, and maybe even a slight touch of chorus. I really doubt he can get that tone in that room with just his guitar and microphone! I also noticed he used a capo on the 2nd fret whereas you played without one. Not that it affects tone but it is different.

                                                Joe

                                                The sight of a touch, or the scent of a sound,
                                                Or the strength of an Oak with roots deep in the ground.
                                                --Graeme Edge

                                                • January 26, 2024 at 9:36 am #362034
                                                  Geoff
                                                  Participant

                                                    Hi Joe, hope things are well with you. Still working on the classical I hope 🙂

                                                    Of course it is possible he has very good acoustics in his room but it is very likely he might have done the kind of tweaking you described. All I know is he has produced a sound I would really like to replicate. I am currently doing a whole suite and recording with just a touch of reverb – it is not very purist of me but it does seem to improve the sound.

                                                    I rarely use a capo for the classical stuff. At least, the sheet music I was using did not prescribe one.

                                              • January 24, 2024 at 3:38 pm #361995
                                                Jon R
                                                Participant

                                                  Love it! Thanks for sharing.

                                                  • January 24, 2024 at 7:34 pm #361996
                                                    Geoff
                                                    Participant

                                                      Thank you Jon.

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