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A6 to A9 Chord

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  • This topic has 4 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated 1 year, 9 months ago by Jean-Michel G.
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    • November 6, 2023 at 5:47 am #355650
      Jon
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        Hello everyone

        I’m a bit confused by something that came up in EP516 (6:30). Brian demonstrates playing an A6 chord. I don’t understand how moving the entire shape down two frets changes the A6 to an A9. Why doesn’t it change to a G6?

        Jon C

      • November 6, 2023 at 6:12 am #355655
        Jean-Michel G
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          Hi Jon,
          When moving an A6 chord two frets down, you do get a G6 chord. However, you also get an (implied) A9 chord.
          Let’s look at the chord tones:
          A6 = (A, C#, E, F#)
          Moving that down two frets gives (G, B, D, E) = G6.
          Now, the chord tones of A9 are (A, C#, E, G, B). Drop the A and C#, and you get the chord tones of G6. So, that G6 chord can be viewed as an A9 chord without root (presumably played by the bass) and without 3rd (presumably played by the rhythm section).

          This sort of juggling is frequent with rich chord.
          Hope this helps.

          • November 6, 2023 at 6:27 am #355657
            Jon
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              Thanks Jean-Michel. That is indeed helpful.

              Jon

              Jon C

          • November 13, 2023 at 11:49 am #356119
            Duffy P
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              That’s fine, but there would have to be something else in the context to make it imply an A9.

              There’s no root and you are missing the third, which are the two elements that most clearly define a chord. The third strongest element is the seventh, in this case the G. But this 7th is in the bass, which is probably the hardest place for our ears to get used to it.

              So it may be an A9, but it’s probably more implied by what comes before and after it.

            • November 14, 2023 at 1:51 am #356134
              Jean-Michel G
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                Well…

                Jean-Michel G wrote:

                … So, that G6 chord can be viewed as an A9 chord without root (presumably played by the bass) and without 3rd (presumably played by the rhythm section).

                As for the voicing, if the bass plays the root and if the rhythm section plays the 3rd, then the 7th isn’t in the bass anymore 😉

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