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Connecting a Loop Pedal to a Fender Mustang LT25

Home › Forums › Discuss Your Gear › Connecting a Loop Pedal to a Fender Mustang LT25

  • This topic has 15 replies, 9 voices, and was last updated 2 years, 4 months ago by Jean-Michel G.
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    • June 8, 2023 at 10:41 pm #345594
      Daniel A
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        I bought my Fender Mustang LT25 because it has good sound with multiple presets that allowed me to have a beginner amp without worrying about effect pedals. Honestly its going to be a long time (if ever) that I worry about effect pedals and an upgraded amp.

        However, I see a real need for a basic loop pedal like a TC Electronic Ditto Looper. Just something to be able at record a rhythm loop to use for practicing.

        However – the Fender Mustang LT25 has no built-in loop support. It’s pretty simple.

        Although the amp has a “footswitch” option, the option is for attaching a custom Fender footswitch in order to control the presets with a foot.

        So here’s the actual question. Do you think I can connect a simple single switch looper like TC Electronic Ditto Looper to the Fender Mustang LT25. Would this be done by placing the looper between the guitar and the amp?

      • June 8, 2023 at 11:03 pm #345595
        JoLa
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          Hi Daniel,

          Yes, you insert the looper between the guitar and the amp using another guitar cable. You have input and output ports on the looper pedal, so the connection will be:

          Guitar –> Looper Input, Looper Output –> Amp

          Hope this helps 🙂

          🎸JoLa

        • June 9, 2023 at 2:01 am #345596
          Enrico
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            Hey Daniel, absolutely. A looper will work just the same in front of your amp. The only drawback to it is that any changes in settings you do to the amp will also affect your current looped sound clips. So let’s say you record a rhythm loop using a clean tone and you want to record a lead guitar on top with different settings/tone. The new setting will also affect the sound of the original recording.

            • June 9, 2023 at 5:40 am #345599
              Daniel A
              Participant

                So it will work in front of the amp? If so, that is good enough for me.

                Maybe in a couple of year I’ll be good enough to care about actually composing music at which point a setup of proper pedals and a good looper will be beneficial. But I’m just beginning this journey, and all I really want to do is to be able to record some rhythm to play a lead to so that I can practice different “voicings” (I believe I using the term correctly, but correct me if I’m wrong). Such as playing different CAGED background and then working to understand the corresponding leads as well as modes.

                That’s were I’m at right now and I’ll probably be here for a year or two.

                So question – I can put a Looper Pedal between my guitar and the amp – that would work? Let’s just say that I set the Mustang LT25 to Number 1 – Fender Clean and then play loops withing that preset. That should work? I’m assuming that would be with a cable “IN” from the guitar, and cable “OUT” to the amp?

            • June 9, 2023 at 7:04 am #345604
              Richard G
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                Yes, exactly as JoLa said, Jack cable from guitar to IN on Diito, then another Jack cable from OUT on Ditto to your Amp input socket.

                Richard

                • June 9, 2023 at 8:18 pm #345642
                  Daniel A
                  Participant

                    Thanks. I’m gonna go buy one! That should help expand my playing as it will allow me to engage in a little bit of fun creativity.

                • June 9, 2023 at 3:22 pm #345631
                  sunjamr
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                    You should also probably start thinking about how you can play along to a backing track. Does your amp have an Aux input? If so, you could feed a backing track from your smartphone or iPad or computer.

                    Sunjamr Steve

                    • June 9, 2023 at 8:29 pm #345643
                      Daniel A
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                        Thanks. I already do that. But my interest in the Looper pedal is that it gives me the ability to be more creative and create backing tracks on the fly in different keys instead of using someone else’s canned backing tracks. This is just how my brain and muscle-memory workds when I’m learning. I cement concepts like developing understanding of CAGED positions on the fretboard as well as their corresponding pentatonic leads by being able to play the backing track myself and being able to listen to it while developing a lead. I’ve tried using an Android app Looper (LoopStation) but the sound quality ain’t the best in the best and I find it a bit clumsy to use. Previously I download and convert backing tracks from YouTube and convert them to mp3 audio samples and run them through the AUX/IN port on my amps.

                        • June 10, 2023 at 1:08 am #345648
                          Jean-Michel G
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                            Hi,
                            Maybe you could have a look at DigiTech’s Trio+ Band Creator and Looper.
                            It’s a looping device like the Ditto and you can use it as such, but it also embarks part of the Band In A Box software; as a result, it automatically generates drums and bass accompaniments based on the chords you play. The nice thing about it is that it does that in a large number of different genres and styles.

                      • June 10, 2023 at 3:28 am #345652
                        Daniel A
                        Participant

                          Thanks! I’ll give it a look!

                          Oh my goodness. I looked at the price. Not quite yet. <laughs> My skill level simply doesn’t justify that sort of expenditure. My Epiphone didn’t cost that much (although my Strat does but that was an indulgence for my birthday last year). Plus I’m purchasing it in Thailand and the discrepancy between the low-end price and high-end price (which is still lower than Amazon) make me wonder if these aren’t pirated, i.e., fake. There is a lot of fake equipment circulating in SE Asia.

                          At the moment I think I’ll just go with the entry-level looper which meets my needs for the present. Maybe in two years if my playing (as a 75 year old dude) will warrant a pedal board and a better amp. But right now – for me that’s overkill. But thanks kindly for the suggestion. I’ll keep that in mind if by playing improves and I’m still alive in a couple of year. <laughs>

                        • June 10, 2023 at 7:54 am #345658
                          JoeD1
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                            Hi Daniel. The Ditto pedal you mentioned is an excellent looper pedal. If you’re looking for a budget looper the Lekato looper pedal is the one I use. It’s your basic single button looper. Some people prefer 2 buttons but since this was my first looper it didn’t take me any time at all to learn to use 1 button. It’s cheap (about US $50) but it still has some good features: 9 loops up to 10 minutes, 40 minutes total, unlimited overdubs, upload and download via USB, built-in tuner, and a power adapter is included. It’s perfect for home use if you don’t want to spend a lot of money and just want to lay down some chord progressions as backing tracks or quickly record a riff you’ve come up with so you don’t forget it.

                            Joe

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                          • June 11, 2023 at 7:50 pm #345715
                            San Luis Rey
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                              I think your question has been answered so I’ll bring up something relevant. When you get your looper and start getting the feel for it, you will probably want to watch all the YT videos on it. They will be a big help beyond whats in the book.
                              Mike

                              Mike

                            • June 11, 2023 at 9:55 pm #345725
                              Daniel A
                              Participant

                                I went with the Boss RC-1 Loop Station. My primary problem here is Thailand is buying a product that is “real” as apposed to being a fake, counterfeit. Most of the ‘cheaper’ pedals I found from our online seller came without warranties. I picked Boss RC-1 as it should fit my needs, it is being sold by a well known online shop, had a bunch of positive reviews, and has a warranty. So I’ll assume it’s real. I also bought the Boss PSA power supply as well which is a pricey little gadget but given the local power it’s probably worth the investment to clean up the input voltage. This should show up within the week and I’ll hit YouTube for How-Tos as this seems to be a popular pedal.

                                Thanks for all the feedback.

                              • June 16, 2023 at 10:16 pm #345926
                                Daniel A
                                Participant

                                  Groovey. I got my Boss RC-1 yesterday and spent yesterday afternoon reviewing setup video and playing with it.
                                  Yeah, this is a good addition and will help get the creative juices flowing.

                                  My hands simply went an play three chords. Did it without thinking really. G – D – Em. Once the loop started I ran across my first gotcha. What key is that and where on the fretboard should the pentatonic for that chord triad be played.

                                  Right off the bat. Having the looper is forcing me to think about theory and practical application.

                                  • June 18, 2023 at 12:32 am #345958
                                    Mark H
                                    Participant

                                      Home base would be Em in that progression I would think.

                                  • June 18, 2023 at 3:19 am #345960
                                    Jean-Michel G
                                    Participant

                                      It depends somewhat on how long you dwell on the respective chords.
                                      But yes, Em is good bet if we keep things simple. It certainly is if there are two bars of Em vs one bar of G and one bar of D.

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