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How do you remember musical ideas.

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    • May 14, 2023 at 10:47 pm #343268
      Greg K
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        Hey guys — I’m looking for good strategies/shortcuts to saving musical ideas, licks, discoveries, insights.

        I find I discover something cool while playing and lose it before I’m able to jot down a way to remember it. I’m slow at transcribing tab.

        Anyhow. Any tips for building a catalog of stuff you can go back to? Do you name your licks? Or have some sort of system you can use while playing?

        Thanks!
        ~g

      • May 15, 2023 at 2:39 am #343274
        Jean-Michel G
        Participant

          Hi Greg,

          Working on improvising phrases and on phrasing (not exactly the same thing) is an essential part of my practice routine. But I don’t usually try to save or remember anything! What I do is this: I take a musical device (for example a scale, or an arpeggio, …) and I improvise a phrase, say two bars long. Then I immediately evaluate what I just played. If I like it I may play it again one or two times. If I don’t like it, I try to find out why, and I try to improve it until I am satisfied (or at least, less dissatisfied!).
          Doing this daily for weeks and months in a row will eventually train your fingers to find nice phrases while improvising live. Mind you, the purpose is NOT to build a repertoire of reusable licks! The purpose is to learn how to improvise nice phrases in a given genre.

          A completely different story is when I am composing something. In that case, I will play something and write it down (in standard music notation) or I’ll record it with my old little Zoom H2n that I keep handy. Or I may first write down a phrase that is in my head and then play it to evaluate if it does sound the way I imagined.
          The difference is that in this case you need to be able to evaluate your composition as a whole, so you obviously need to keep track of things.

          Hope this helps.

        • May 15, 2023 at 3:45 am #343276
          Richard G
          Participant

            Good question Greg,
            If I’m exploring quite a few options when improvising phrases/passages etc. I’ll often record the options using my DAW (in my case Ableton Lite) prior to that I used my Boss Loop Pedal and saved the options for playback as a reminder.
            I’ll often find that my original choice of improvised passages in a melody are superseded in preference to later creations when I listen back to the recordings.
            I guess we’ll all have slightly different ways to remind ourselves of the on-the-spot creations, those are just mine.

            Richard

          • May 15, 2023 at 6:25 am #343282
            Denise
            Participant

              That’s a very good question!
              Like Richard I often record my ideas into my DAW. And all my playings and showcases are saved there as well as in my video software. When I re-watch them I see what I have played.
              I also use Guitar Pro to tab my licks. But this takes (as for me) too much time.
              Additionally I have a small booklet to write down interesting chord progressions, ideas and theory stuff or light bulbs.
              And with regular practice I try to build up a lick/scale/chord repertoire.
              And last I have started to improvise over backing tracks, to create my own or remember ideas from Brian.
              You might have to find out for yourself which the best way for you.
              Denise

              More Blues!

            • May 15, 2023 at 7:43 am #343288
              Mark T
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                Nice question, Greg, and interesting how others approach this!

                As I write, actually, I’m working on an improv for one of Brian’s lessons. Like others, I try various ideas over two or more phrases onto my DAW – once I’ve found one I like, I take a short close-up video of me playing it; my short-term memory is crap lately, and I easily forget exactly what I did and how I did it.

                Once my improv is sorted, I practice the whole thing, with Brian’s lesson, until I’m ready for a take.

                Best wishes 😎

              • May 15, 2023 at 8:12 am #343293
                carmar
                Participant

                  Pen and paper are your friends. As soon as you like one of your licks, write them down.

                  Carmine

                • May 15, 2023 at 10:25 am #343300
                  JoLa
                  Participant

                    I have been trying to find the best way to do it myself!

                    If I’m noodling (usually on an acoustic guitar) and come up with a riff, a phrase, or a chord progression I like, I record them to Voice Memos on my iPhone. If I’m composing a song, I record some ideas to Voice Memos and sometimes record a close up video of how I play them. It’s amazing how many times I recorded something to Voice Memos and then had no idea how I played that! 🧐

                    When improvising with an electric guitar, I record what I play often in my DAW and then listen back to it. If I like something, I try to re-create it again and again. Over time the phrases may change and morph into something else so I just record the latest take before wrapping up the session.

                    🎸JoLa

                  • May 15, 2023 at 2:38 pm #343310
                    John H
                    Participant

                      Repetition = muscle memory. I found that if you love the guitar, repetition and determination always pay off. I am 62 and am still struggling to learn pieces, arrangements and licks that I couldn’t handle 20 years ago. There is no easy way through it but through it. Good luck.

                      John

                      • May 16, 2023 at 1:17 am #343327
                        Jean-Michel G
                        Participant

                          John, I definitely agree with you!
                          I’d only add this: repetition makes permanent, not perfect. So you have to make sure you repeat “correct” things. It’s a well known fact by teachers in music school: they see new students coming who already have a year or two of practice and who first need to spend another year just to get rid of all the bad habits!

                          …also, I find it much easier to remember things if I understand them. But that’s just me, of course.

                      • May 16, 2023 at 10:57 am #343356
                        Richard W
                        Participant

                          Over the last year or so I have started using Guitar Pro to write down and remember musical ideas. I’ve become a big fan. It definitely has a learning curve, but with a bit of effort and regular use, I’ve become fairly comfortable with it.

                          At various times I’ve tried keeping notebooks or using Voice Memo or similar apps, but they just never seemed to work for me. My handwriting is terrible, so that makes notebooks problematic. And with Voice Memo, I found it hard to keep things organized to the point where I could easily find things I’d been working on, say, a week ago.

                          But with GP, things are nice and organized in folders and I can call up a piece of music in seconds and be working on it.

                          I’ve been doing a fair amount of transcribing also, and I couldn’t imagine doing that without Guitar Pro now.

                        • May 16, 2023 at 11:44 am #343358
                          Greg K
                          Participant

                            Hey Friends,

                            Thanks for all the great advice! It’s cool to see all the different ways we work to remember musical ideas. Greatly appreciated!

                            Cheers!
                            ~g

                          • May 17, 2023 at 10:16 pm #343450
                            Mark H
                            Participant

                              I find that once I’ve got something down I’m unlikely to forget it if it’s any good. It’s the new ideas that are the challenge.

                              I’m a Mac user and use their whiteboard app Freehand to splatter all the ideas I get from the internet into three categories, Theory, playing and (guitar) maintenance. It’s a big stress reducer.

                              If I find something cool online that I don’t have time to work with (which is often) I just copy the url and paste it into my Freehand ‘music’ board so I can spin it up in the morning with a double click. When I’m working with it I can put all my notes alongside the link.

                              It’s been a game changer for me. Attached is my current Freehand > Music page. It changes every day.

                            • May 18, 2023 at 8:01 pm #343486
                              Michael L
                              Participant

                                This is not quite on the topic of remembering musical ideas as you come up with them, but there may be some helpful info here. This popped up in my YT feed just after I read this post.

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