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Types of Minor Scales and Harmonization

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    • January 13, 2022 at 8:43 am #292398
      charjo
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        Hi all you AM insatiable learners,
        As some of you are aware, I’ve been known to dabble in and dispense some of my cobbled together music theory. Every now and then you come across someone with a very thorough grounding such as one of our new members Jean-Michel G. He wrote this reply to a query in a post. I thought it deserved a wider audience so I asked his permission to repost it. Hope you find it a helpful overview.
        John

        Minor Scales and Harmonization
        The minor world is a tad more complex than the major one…
        To begin with, there is not one but three relative minor keys for any given major key (and I am not even talking about the modes here, just plain major/minor relationship).
        Let’s take an easy practical example: C major.
        The notes of the scale are, as you certainly know: C D E F G A B
        In functional harmony, these notes are called “degrees” and on each degree we can build a chord. If we use triads, we get: C Dm Em F G Am Bm(b5)
        So, the 1 chord is C, the 4 chord is F and the 5 chord is G.
        Since all major scales are structurally equivalent, we can abstract their harmonization as follows:
        I ii iii IV V vi vii(b5)
        (uppercase roman numerals indicate major chords and lowercase roman numerals indicate minor chords)
        If we start that scale from the 6th degree (or equivalently from a tonic located a minor third lower) we get the natural relative minor scale: A B C D E F G
        whose chords (triads) are Am Bm(b5) C Dm Em F G
        The 1 chord is now obviously Am, the 4 chord is Dm and the 5 chord is Em.
        Again, in general we have: i ii(b5) III iv v VI VII
        One big limitation of this scale is that there is a full step between the 7th degree and the octave (between G and A); put differently, there is no leading tone and therefore no perfect cadence.
        If we raise the 7th degree one half step, we get the so-called harmonic relative minor scale whose notes are now A B C D E F G#; the chords on each degree of this scale are now Am Bm(b5) Caug Dm E F G#m
        In general: i ii(b5) IIIaug iv V VI #vii
        The 1 chord is Am, the 4 chord is Dm and the 5 chord is E. Now we have the very conclusive V –> i cadence (E –> Am) similar to the V –> I cadence in major.
        As you can see, these chords are not the same as those from the relative major scale.
        The issue with the harmonic minor scale is the one step and a half interval between the 6th and the 7th degree (F and G#) which is difficult to sing; so we raise the sixth degree one half step to get A B C D E F# G#, which is the melodic relative minor scale of C major. The triads are now: Am Bm Caug D E F#m(b5) G#m
        In general: i ii IIIaug IV V #vi(b5) #vii
        The 1 chord is Am, the 4 chord is D (not Dm) and the 5 chord is E.
        Again, these chords are very different from those in the relative major parent. You will also note that the A melodic minor scale is very close to the A major scale; the only difference is the flat third.
        The melodic minor scale and its modes are very important in jazz.
        In fact, the only minor scale that has the same chords as its relative major parent is the natural minor scale. To summarize, taking only the 1, 4 and 5 chords:
        Natural minor: i iv v
        Harmonic minor: i iv V
        Melodic minor: i IV V

      • January 13, 2022 at 1:59 pm #292412
        JoLa
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          Yes, this is by far the best explanation of minor scale I have ever read although I’m not going to pretend that I get it all just yet. In fact, I’m far from getting it but I hope one day I will 😉

          We are very lucky to have experienced music theory contributors, such as Jean-Michel G, yourself John, Duffy and a few others! Thanks for reposting this, John, it’s a gem.

          🎸JoLa

        • January 13, 2022 at 2:48 pm #292415
          Jean-Michel G
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            Thank you John, it is very kind of you to put this in the spotlight!
            And thank you JoLa for the nice words. To be honest, I doubt that this is a gem: there is probably way to much information crammed in too long a reply 🙂
            That’s the problem when you try to give complete answers: it easily gets too long. And also, the notation with roman numerals is scary! 😉

            Practical summary: if you have to improvise over a song with a minor chord progression and you want to use scales for that, your safest bet is probably the natural minor scale, except over the V -> i or ii -> V -> i cadence where the harmonic minor scale will be more appropriate.

            Example: in A minor
            Chord progression: |Am | |Dm |Am |Bm7(b5) |E7 |Am
            Over the first three bars: A natural minor (or A minor pentatonic)
            Over the last three bars: A harmonic minor.

          • January 13, 2022 at 3:53 pm #292423
            sunjamr
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              That’s a good way to explain it. And now the key is to listen to those scales and see how they sound. Somehow if I’m playing improv to a minor chord progression, my brain just tells me where to find the next note that sounds best. I didn’t practice interval training to get there, it just happened.

              Sunjamr Steve

            • January 13, 2022 at 11:53 pm #292442
              Dieter
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                Excellent explanation. When it comes to minor scales, I’ve always been too lazy to really look into it in depth. I have copied your explanations to analyze and think through them at my leisure.

                Dieter

              • January 14, 2022 at 3:47 am #292447
                Richard G
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                  Certainly a good explanation, thanks Jean-Michel and John. To appreciate and listen to chord structures and related scales such as the differences between natural, melodic and harmonic minor scales, I use a program called https://www.all-guitar-chords.com
                  Listening to these subtle differences in chords and related scales begins to open up a whole new world.

                  Richard

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