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B9 is driving me crazy..(EP268)

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    • April 12, 2020 at 8:01 am #168636
      Billy
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        Been practising Ep268 and the opening B9(?)chord is driving me crazy trying to make the shape, seemingly my fingers have other ideas on what they can and cant do.
        So is there a substitute to this shape?, Ive tried swapping it for a B7 shape chord and while its easier to play It just doesnt sit right with my ear and the feel to this lesson.

        chordquestion1

        ..Billy..

      • April 12, 2020 at 8:11 am #168638
        John H
        Participant

          Yes Billy there is a work around… keep working on it but in the meantime you can cheat and just play the first, second and third in the second fret. Or just eliminate note on the 5th string second fret. Eventually, it will happen. Hope this helps.

          John

        • April 12, 2020 at 9:40 am #168650
          charjo
          Moderator

            Billy,
            9th chords rooted on the 5th string give me fits, too. You can skip the high E string, that’s a 5th interval and a common interval to drop within extended chords. So, put 2nd finger on the B, 2nd fret, 5th string; index on the D#, 1st fret, 4th string; ring finger on the A, 2nd fret, 3rd string; pinky on the C#, 2nd fret, 2nd string. You’ve still got a B9 but with an easy grip.
            Alternatively, I often bar the 3 high strings with my pinky, instead of the usual ring finger.
            John

          • April 12, 2020 at 10:04 am #168655
            snakechisler
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              I use my third finger to bar strings 1,2 & 3 my second on String 4 and my first on String 5 using the finger end to damp the 6th

              Always done it that way what fingerings are you doing?

            • April 12, 2020 at 10:30 am #168657
              KevinE
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                Until you can play the C9/B9 as shown, just bar all the way across at the 3rd fret. Play the 5th string and then the top three strings. Then slide it all down to the 2nd fret. Not perfect, but it might work for you.

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              • April 12, 2020 at 10:34 am #168659
                richard t
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                  You can play it on the seventh fret on the inside 4 strings, but I don’t know if that’s any easier.

                • April 12, 2020 at 11:12 am #168670
                  Martyn in France
                  Participant

                    Check the video Billy, I think Brian only plays strings 2, 3, 4 and 5. Although my eyes aren’t what they were so maybe I’m wrong (NOT FOR THE FIRST TIME LADDIE!!). Come to think of it I’ve worn glasses from the age of ten so they were never very good to start with!
                    Martyn

                  • April 12, 2020 at 12:11 pm #168676
                    JohnStrat
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                      I have always held that as Richard describes. I have also tried Brian’s way using the pinky and can make it at a slight squeeze. You haven’t said which way you are stuckinhibited with?

                    • April 12, 2020 at 12:41 pm #168678
                      Billy
                      Participant

                        Sorry should have mentioned that I’m baring 123 with my pinky, ring finger on top of pinky for extra pressure, index finger 4th string and middle finger on 5th, nine times out of ten I’m muteing the 4th string cos my pinky won’t bend on its own to work as a bar..

                        ..Billy..

                      • April 12, 2020 at 1:09 pm #168682
                        charjo
                        Moderator

                          Billy,
                          As I said, I do the same. Try pushing your wrist forward and you can almost use the straight side of you pinky, it doesn’t have to bend. My ring and pinky fingers have zero flexibility.
                          John

                          • April 12, 2020 at 1:16 pm #168684
                            Billy
                            Participant

                              Worth a try John, thanks man ..

                              ..Billy..

                          • April 12, 2020 at 2:28 pm #168686
                            richard t
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                              OK so I made a mistake and said the seventh fret but that would be the C9.
                              B9, 6th fret, would be index 6th fret 5th string. ring 7th fret 4th string. middle 6th fret 3rd string. and pinky 7th fret 2nd string. Both E strings are muted. There isn’t a root in this version

                            • April 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm #168707
                              Billy
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                                richard t wrote:

                                OK so I made a mistake and said the seventh fret but that would be the C9.
                                B9, 6th fret, would be index 6th fret 5th string. ring 7th fret 4th string. middle 6th fret 3rd string. and pinky 7th fret 2nd string. Both E strings are muted. There isn’t a root in this version

                                Thanks Richard, I’ve decided to stick to the chord shape in the pdf, it’s not perfect but it is getting easier with practise, when I finger it correctly it sounds great..

                                ..Billy..

                              • April 12, 2020 at 7:41 pm #168722
                                sunjamr
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                                  Most people just play it as a common ordinary B7 chord shape, easy peazy. That leaves the 2nd string open, but our fat ring finger deadens it anyway. Funk, reggae, jazz…everybody does it that way.

                                  Sunjamr Steve

                                • April 13, 2020 at 4:19 am #168746
                                  Billy
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                                    sunjamr wrote:

                                    Most people just play it as a common ordinary B7 chord shape, easy peazy. That leaves the 2nd string open, but our fat ring finger deadens it anyway. Funk, reggae, jazz…everybody does it that way.

                                    That’s what I was doing to begin with Steve, I’ve found that if I practise this C9/B9 shape on acoustic that it’s far easier to play on electric, the key to forming this chord is in John’s advice.
                                    Thanks to all who helped me out with this.

                                    ..Billy..

                                  • April 13, 2020 at 7:10 am #168759
                                    brian-belsey
                                    Participant

                                      I’m late trying to add anything to this, but so much (obviously) hinges on the makeup of our particular hands. I find I can “collapse” my third finger across the top 3 strings but my hand didn’t like doing this at all at first but then after a little practice it was almost as if it decided oh ok I suppose I can do this. It might be worth practising this a bit in case it falls into place for you.

                                    • April 13, 2020 at 3:11 pm #168814
                                      Billy
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                                        brian-belsey wrote:

                                        I’m late trying to add anything to this, but so much (obviously) hinges on the makeup of our particular hands. I find I can “collapse” my third finger across the top 3 strings but my hand didn’t like doing this at all at first but then after a little practice it was almost as if it decided oh ok I suppose I can do this. It might be worth practising this a bit in case it falls into place for you.

                                        Hey Brian, I got it covered now kiddo. My pinky now folds in half…hahahaha

                                        ..Billy..

                                      • April 14, 2020 at 7:45 am #168891
                                        satellite
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                                          Have you tried hanging your thumb over to cover strings 5 and 6 on the third fret, First finger on fret two of string 4, and then third finger covers strings 1,2 and 3 without the need to collapse that finger. It works fine for me and it gives a strong grip that moves up and down fret board easily…

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