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November 28, 2018 at 3:41 am #117602
Hi together,
my friend had asked me before I went on vacation if I did not even look at his Floyd Rose 1000 Tremolo system on his PRS. He is quite dissatisfied with the stability of the mood and has lost a bit of the desire for the FR 1000. Last weekend he had brought me the good piece. I had a PRS in my hand for the first time.
Here are my impressions:The SE Floyd Custom 24 has a cool look in a traditional PRS design with a mahogany body and flat maple top sloping at the edges.
No idea if this is a great one-off item or if production in Korea is always good. At any rate, I did not recognize a single production error.On the back, plastic plates precisely cover the spring and electrical chambers with the top edge.
Even an electrical shield with ground contact is not missing.
The rather bulky foot of the neck completes the front pickup milling. This promotes in my opinion, the vibration transmission positive, the guitar is well balanced, so not top-heavy.The rosewood fingerboard was built very clean, including edging and polish.
The Floyd Rose 1000 Vibrato is very smooth.
It has screws that guide the string slides, string-tightening screws, and fine-tuning adjustment screws for the strings.
A foam rubber insert is located under the FR 1000.
The lever for the tremolo is attached with a union nut and controls to the ease of the plug lever.
The pickup on the neck is a vintage bass (PRS SE HB with zebra coils).
The pickup on the bridge is a Hot Fat Scream Treble.
There is a three way switch with the master tone poti having a HB split function. This deactivates the inner HB coils.Now for the actual setting.
The Floyd Rose 1000 tremolo is a floating system (so the string is held in balance by the springs on the back string).Here is my approach.
Since the thicker strings produce a greater tensile force than the thinner strings, I did the following.
Springs in tremolo shaft: (here for .009 strings)
A spring on position of the e-string
A spring on position of the E-string
A spring diagonally to the E-stringStrengthen new strings by hand immediately after drawing; as we always do.
Set tuning of the guitar and
always make sure that the tremolo is parallel to the top of the guitar.
If necessary, slightly correct the counter-screws in the body of the guitar.
Tighten the clamping screws on the saddle (headstock).
Fine tune the adjusting screws.If the base plate of the FR 1000 is parallel to the top of the guitar, everything remains stable.
Intonation:
I feel as suboptimal; Okay, you only do it once.
Here, the string must be completely relaxed again and again to move the carriage accordingly and then to fix again.
There are probably also special tools that I do not own.Now I wanted to play the PRS.
The guitar is comfortable in size and in good balance on the thigh.
The guitar has a dynamic sound development with a direct response and good sustain; I think something good for the filigree, expressive and slightly distorted blues blues guitarist.
The sound is balanced and has a clean sound definition.
Also, the vintage bass pickup has no difficulty serving a properly distorted blues.
In combination with both humbuckers, the neck pickup controls the characteristic in the sound, because the bell-shaped sound is carried with clear basses and silky heights.
He is also a little louder than the bridge pickup; but that can certainly (if you want) influence by settings, which I do not want here now. I was only asked to set the FR system.With the coil splits, there are three additional sounds available.
The pairing of both SC coils clearly shows a Fender-TC.
Regardless of clean or distorted, all three sounds are useful if a little less fat sound is desired.
Both potis are obviously to handle precisely by uniform control characteristic.
When turning back the volume poti hardly any significant height loss can be seen for me.In the end, I can`t fault the stability of the mood and after a few minutes of play, really nothing; not even on the second day after adjustment.
Everything worked as it should.But, All in all, the sound direction in my view is perhaps a bit too “metallic”.
How is your PRS experience?
Maybe you have some additions or hints.Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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November 28, 2018 at 5:37 am #117606
Good morning Wilfried. Thank you for that thorough description of your friend‘s PRS. I can‘t compare my PRS to the same extent, but what I can confirm is the quality and the high plying comfort. I own a PRS custom 22 Semi hollow. It‘s an ideal complement to my other guitars as it‘s fret board width as well as the scale length are right between my Strat (Thin) and my SG (wide). I have recently begun to play in a band (mostly Pop, a little Rock, occasionaly Blues) and it fits right in. The hollow body makes it very comfortable to play while standing, although the Strat is not far behind. Great tone, too, although the band prefers my Strat‘s growly Humbucker sound. Lastly, one other guitarist in the same band has an 80‘s PRS and also can‘t speak highly enough of it.
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November 28, 2018 at 2:08 pm #117641
Hi Kevin, yes great build and clean quality is impressive at the PRS. The sound is subjective anyway.
I’m convinced that tuning the pickups can make the sound a bit warmer. But I did not want to put it everywhere. It may be that I get the PRS again; my friend likes the warmer sound too. Thank you for your information. Great that you are playing in a band now; I wish you much success and fun.Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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November 28, 2018 at 6:18 am #117607
Hi Wilfried.
I think many members here have a PRS guitar. It’s good to hear your honest opinion of the tone, and that is what a guitar is mostly all about in the beginning. The feel and balance and other factors do come in place, but its the tone (open string tone) that nails it.
You mentioned this: But, All in all, the sound direction in my view is perhaps a bit too “metallic”.Your ears hear what I’ve always felt, even when Santana was playing his. Not sure why that is though.
The melody of the notes is what expresses the art of music . 🙂 6stringerPete
It really is all about ”melody”. The melody comes from a language from our heart. Our heart is the muscle in music harmony. The melody is the sweetness that it pumps into our musical thoughts on the fretboard. 🙂 6 stringer Pete
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November 28, 2018 at 2:10 pm #117642
Hi Pete, thank you for your opinion! The sound comes in sum from the amp, the pickups, the fingers, the wood and so on. I also heard some PRS, there were already some with a much warmer sound. One thing is to be noted.
The PRS is very enjoyable to play. I think the PRS is not uninteresting.Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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November 28, 2018 at 8:11 am #117614
Good morning Wilfried, As I pondered the thought too, what I gathered just by reviews and not yet tried myself any comparisons between overseas vs the usa PRS models but the reviews on youtube generally suggest all the specs are in line and the trade off basically for these guitars are the USA Custom series are built with the best components as mentioned in the youtube reviews I’ve watched.. I think the pickups tones in mine lean more towards that Santana rock and the metal genres..but only because me as just newbie (not pro at comparing pickups) comparing it to my American Fender Stratacaster or Standard usa LesPaul/ Gibson SG and GE Smith fender Telecaster SH550 Carvin .. it feels lightest in my lap,, pickups and wood resonate like any Top end handcrafted PRS Custom.. I probably would not want the floyd rose system ..think that is too much machine for what I like doing on guitar.
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November 28, 2018 at 2:12 pm #117643
Yes John, of course there are big differences. Thank you for your excellent opinion. The PRS is very pleasant to the touch and can also be played comfortably. She is relatively small for that; I like that too.
The FR system is okay. Many basic settings are done only once.
Anyway; the guitar is crafted perfectly.Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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November 28, 2018 at 10:17 am #117621
Mine is a custom 22 solid body with Dragon II humbuckers and 5 way switch with coil tap options. No Floyd Rose on mine. It has been a great guitar. Well made and easy to play.
It has it’s own unique tone and doesn’t sound like a Gibson or Fender. The only negative is the coil taps are weak so I will grab a different guitar if I want the single coil tone.
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November 28, 2018 at 2:14 pm #117644
Richard, in terms of sound, the guitar has its own direction, I see it that way and makes the guitar interesting. I believe that with individual components the sound can always be influenced according to its needs. Do you have the pickups 85/15 HB?
Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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November 28, 2018 at 5:38 pm #117657
I just logged on, had a busy day and just setting in for practicing.. just in reply to recent discussion.. i agree 100% ,, love this PRS it would not be in my collection,, and it does have it’s own place (expensive ,this cost me abot three times what I paid (all my guitars are used) averaging around a grand give or take a few hundred… the thing is..this PRS will fetch at least several hundred more should I decide someday to flip it.. it really is worth it as UI had years trying several custom built guitars in rank.. But the trutrh is, nothing can substitute the classic tones of any American made classic Fender STRAT/TELE or Gibsons you always see the best play them,,endorsement or what have you,,they all have their own tones.. why I own them and have the option to check them all out at my buddies shop. Thing with PRS is they make great guitars like my Carvin sh 550 semi for a third the price I paid.. if I was to unload my collection.. I would likely keep the Carvin for just being solid for the money and i’m not a performer not even close to pro yet from what I see here and everywhere.. but the PRS i HAVE AS WITH ALL MY GUITARS SHOULD APPRECIATE or at least hold the value I paid used at a discount from my friend’s guitar online shop.. regardless, I am content and happy comparing having fun with each guitar!
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November 29, 2018 at 12:45 am #117669
I think so too John. I also have my favorite guitars; and these are my Duesenberg. Nevertheless, I became aware of the PRS now; As I wrote, the guitar is great. I also do not really understand why my friend is not so happy with it. At the weekend we will meet again; let’s see what he says. The FR-system is stable in any case. Yesterday I had a look at the Location-setting of the pickups. I would not change it that way. I do not know at the moment if he is satisfied with the sound; but he also has a different amp. I think a transistor amp; I have Mesa Boogie TA15.
Yes John, we are not professionals and yet we have reasonably good technical understanding. The Stratocaster, Telecaster or LP guitars are certainly excellent guitars; even if the sound of the guitars and in the price range does not completely convince me personally. My direction is obviously Duesenberg. Nevertheless, I am satisfied with my TC; a real TC fan will probably not be satisfied with that, I would have to apologize, he would probably laugh at me or regret. LOL
The PRS is really good in the hand, great the part. I think the sound can be well adapted with appropriate components to your own wishes. I seriously thought about buying a PRS too. But, for our skills on the guitar, we already have great instruments.
What do you have for pickups in your PRS?
Thank you for your thoughts John.Play guitar just like you live; don't get bogged down in theory, it's just a tool without feeling.
Wilfried
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