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August 17, 2017 at 2:35 am #77910
Example is done using voice but it is the same process when putting delay or slap delay on guitar.
..Billy..
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August 17, 2017 at 8:24 am #77914
Nice effect, Billy. The way I look at it, there are people like me who like to sing. And then there vocalists, who actually know what they’re doing. (Think Eagles) Vocalists can get by with a pretty dry signal. I need mine more wet to cover flaws, and fatten it up. For some reason, almost all my music friends add reverb to their vocals. I’ve always thought reverb on vocals, or guitar, is noisy and dirty and colors tone excessively. Whereas, a little slap back delay (vocals and guitar) fattens up the sound. I also often add compression. All of a sudden, I almost sound like a vocalist. lol
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August 17, 2017 at 9:04 am #77918
yea neat effect for sure Billy.. If there is interest, I could post my favorites for Reaper. You are slowly unlocking a monster there man.. lol, it will consume you.. 🙂
Don't practice till you get it right, practice till you can't get it wrong.
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August 17, 2017 at 9:13 am #77922
That would be great. Thanks.
The melody of the notes is what expresses the art of music . 🙂 6stringerPete
It really is all about ”melody”. The melody comes from a language from our heart. Our heart is the muscle in music harmony. The melody is the sweetness that it pumps into our musical thoughts on the fretboard. 🙂 6 stringer Pete
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August 17, 2017 at 10:22 am #77930
Nice effect, Billy. The way I look at it, there are people like me who like to sing. And then there vocalists, who actually know what they’re doing. (Think Eagles) Vocalists can get by with a pretty dry signal. I need mine more wet to cover flaws, and fatten it up. For some reason, almost all my music friends add reverb to their vocals. I’ve always thought reverb on vocals, or guitar, is noisy and dirty and colors tone excessively. Whereas, a little slap back delay (vocals and guitar) fattens up the sound. I also often add compression. All of a sudden, I almost sound like a vocalist. lol
yea neat effect for sure Billy.. If there is interest, I could post my favorites for Reaper. You are slowly unlocking a monster there man.. lol, it will consume you..
That would be great. Thanks.
Was kind of a strange today, Pete had asked me about slap back in another thread and I was thinking about why dont we have that as a digital enhancement on our DAW’s, As with all things modern there is either an app for that or a tutorial on the big bad web..
Anyway, I was reading up on Scotty Moore and Sun Studios and Sam Phillips who 1st thought of slapback which he added to Scotties guitar..
So here I am then full circle from Pete’s question of the other day..
Someone needs to set out a studio/daw/recording thread where questions can be asked and answered…over to you then Gene..
hahaha..Billy..
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August 17, 2017 at 9:03 pm #77980
Well, rather than post links for the videos, I am going to leave it to you guys to search it. hehe..
The stuff I use the most are EQ, compression, delay and reverb. terms you need to understand are the difference between “wet” and “dry”… in most cases, consider the original signal as the dry part, and the result of a signal that is processed as “wet”. Be careful with wet and dry usage as you can accidentally double the processed audio.
Reverb – be careful using it and never mix different types of reverb. Different types would be like using a cathedral and then also using maybe a large room. Think of a cube and imagine the sound bouncing around in that cube. It will get messy fast. If I use a virtual instrument, whether it is drums, or anything else (even amplifier simulations), if it has built in reverb, I turn it off and make a dedicated reverb track. You want to have that control and uniformity.
Compression can be used to not only compress the signal, but, can be used to gate a signal as well. Gating means to allow or not allow the signal to be used. A neat technique is to use delay at the end of a signal, but, not during the signal. This is called dynamic delay and this can be done by gating the signal with compression.
You want to learn how to do what is called “audio ducking”. Audio ducking is great for having something stand out, but, go away. Like a lead guitar over a rhythm guitar. You want the lead to poke through the rhythm, etc. You could do the same by manually changing the volume of the performance, but, by using ducking, that eliminates that process.
Parallel processing is another technique to understand. This is great for, lets say, boosting the highs on cymbals and adding that back to the original mix. In the simplest terms, what you are doing is duplicating the signal to another channel, but, only using the “wet”, or result of the signal process, which is mixed back along side the original.
Understanding EQ is essential as well. Every instrument has a frequency range and can actually collide with other instruments. There are hours of videos just on this subject alone. As an example, giving a performance that has bass guitar, electric guitar. There could be areas were the electric guitar and the bass guitar would overlap. (Think barre chords), so, since the bass has the low range covered, the electric doesn’t need those frequencies. Kick drums and bass can overlap as well.
This just off the top, it will actually differ from project to project. But, for the most part, all will end up having some common grounds when it comes to mixing. So, you will also want to build and work with track templates.
Don’t go over board with any of this either. That will ruin a good song fast. In most cases, not much will be needed anyways.
Don't practice till you get it right, practice till you can't get it wrong.
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August 18, 2017 at 2:27 am #77987
loads of great information in there Gene, thanks for that.
..Billy..
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August 18, 2017 at 3:17 pm #78045
Very interesting, thanks for posting. I don’t use Reaper, but I’m thinking of getting it for my grandson, who uses a PC. One thing that jumps out at me so far is that Reaper is hugely more complicated to use than GarageBand or Logic Pro (which I use). That’s partly because Windows itself is hugely more complicated than Apple’s OS. Even so, it looks to me like Reaper is simpler to use on a PC than Cubase, Ableton Live, or ProTools – and way cheaper.
Sunjamr Steve
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August 18, 2017 at 3:35 pm #78050
Very interesting, thanks for posting. I don’t use Reaper, but I’m thinking of getting it for my grandson, who uses a PC. One thing that jumps out at me so far is that Reaper is hugely more complicated to use than GarageBand or Logic Pro (which I use). That’s partly because Windows itself is hugely more complicated than Apple’s OS. Even so, it looks to me like Reaper is simpler to use on a PC than Cubase, Ableton Live, or ProTools – and way cheaper.
Yes Steve, £58 gbp for private/home license. As Gene pointed out the Reaper forum has tons of tutorial videos. I have only used one other DAW than Reaper and that is Audacity but that is more complicated IMHO..
..Billy..
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August 18, 2017 at 4:11 pm #78056
What sold me on Reaper was the quality of the sound it produces. I had used one other DAW before that, and it just blew me away..
BTW, Reaper is also available on Mac OS as well.. In fact, if you notice, Kenny’s tutorials are all on a Mac.
Don't practice till you get it right, practice till you can't get it wrong.
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August 18, 2017 at 6:06 pm #78066
That was interesting, but not forme yet,, that would simply take away too much my practice time learning guitar software approach,, taking me much time as it is getting my timing and other skills theory and simply muscle memory on the fret board. this would cause me a big dilemma just taking the time even with the simple tutorials.. but it is cool to see how the software works,, just not into that stuff now..maybe down the road..as it is,, I’m still learning how to use the basic tone settings on my amps with built in effects and my guitars without much any effects learning to ear the tone controls for my pickups ..for the most part, I actually am pleased with minimum effects at this time.
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