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January 6, 2013 at 11:26 pm #4455
I am told it is good to know all the notes on the fretboard, will this enable me to play easier by ear or will i still need tabs to play a given song?, i had a friend who i havn’t seen for years, he used to be able to hear part of a song then play the whole thing by ear, is that an advantage of learning all the notes available and where they are? at the mopment i am just learning riffs and licks from my fav songs but eventually i would like to be able to put it all together and play the whole song.
Neil.
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January 7, 2013 at 12:13 am #9156
I dont know that it would help you to be able to play by ear better,but knowing where all the notes are on the fret board will help you to figure things out
I am also learning the notes on the fret board right now , I knew the low and high E string and the rest open but that was about it
by learning the notes, chords are making more sence now, and scales are too.
to be able to play by ear, again practice practice practice. Or be very musicly talented right out of the box. I envy those people that can hear something pick up the guitar and play it -
March 18, 2013 at 7:09 pm #10238
There are a couple of ways to do this but they all boil down to practice, practice, practice.
1. Apps or games: There are several iPod apps that can help (FretWarrior is one). Or you can use sites like FretboardMaster.com (http://www.fretboardmaster.com/fretboardgame.html).
2. This is a pretty good video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy1Kc_uSSbI) with a 5-page pdf of drills (http://www.metalmethod.com/pdf/notenames.pdf).
3. Or you could use a mnemonic method. Looking at an open fretboard and going from the top (thicker) E string, the notes are E A D G B E. [strong]E[/strong]die [strong]A[/strong]te [strong]D[/strong]irt. [strong]G[/strong]ood [strong]B[/strong]ye [strong]E[/strong]die.
Every single-syllable word is a whole note. Words with 2 syllables are flats or sharps.
At the 3rd fret, we have [strong]G[/strong]ayle’s [strong]C[/strong]ool [strong]F[/strong]riends [strong]a[/strong]lways [strong]D[/strong]ress [strong]G[/strong]ood. (or G C F A# D G)
On the 5th fret, we have [strong]A[/strong]nd [strong]D[/strong]awn’s [strong]G[/strong]rey [strong]C[/strong]at [strong]E[/strong]ats [strong]A[/strong]nts (A D G C E A)
The 7th fret doesn’t have a sentence but the 1st 4 strings spell BEAD. So, just remember BEAD F# B
The 8th fret says [strong]C[/strong]arl [strong]F[/strong]eels [strong]a[/strong]wful [strong]d[/strong]riving [strong]G[/strong]reen [strong]C[/strong]ars. (C F A# D# G C)
Finally, on the 10th fret, we learn that [strong]D[/strong]ave [strong]G[/strong]rew [strong]C[/strong]rops [strong]F[/strong]or [strong]A[/strong] [strong]D[/strong]ay (D G C F A D).
I hope this helps!
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March 18, 2013 at 11:02 pm #10241
@neil groves wrote:
I am told it is good to know all the notes on the fretboard, will this enable me to play easier by ear or will i still need tabs to play a given song?, i had a friend who i havn’t seen for years, he used to be able to hear part of a song then play the whole thing by ear, is that an advantage of learning all the notes available and where they are? at the mopment i am just learning riffs and licks from my fav songs but eventually i would like to be able to put it all together and play the whole song.
Neil.
I have one of those friends that can listen to a song and tell you the key and the chords.
Its not so much knowing the names of the notes on the keyboard – that is good in being able to find a scale anywhere on the neck – but it requires ear training to recognize the intervals. I think there are some Youtube videos and I know that there are some websites that has intervalic training.
A major scale consists of 7 tones that are as follows.
1 Major
2 Minor
3 Minor
4 Major
5 Major
6 Minor
7 Diminished
8 OctaveWith intervallic training, a 2 note sequence is played and it requires the person to determine whether it is a 2nd, 3rd 4th etc. With practice, it helps a person to hear the progression and recognize it.
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March 19, 2013 at 9:38 pm #10257Quote:A major scale consists of 7 tones that are as follows.
1 Major
2 Minor
3 Minor
4 Major
5 Major
6 Minor
7 Diminished
8 OctaveQuote:Hi Keith
what you have listed would be the triads based on the intervals, the intervals would bewhole step
whole step
half step
whole step
whole step
whole step
half stepGordo
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March 19, 2013 at 10:30 pm #10258
@ChordGuy wrote:
Quote:A major scale consists of 7 tones that are as follows.
1 Major
2 Minor
3 Minor
4 Major
5 Major
6 Minor
7 Diminished
8 OctaveQuote:Hi Keith
what you have listed would be the triads based on the intervals, the intervals would bewhole step
whole step
half step
whole step
whole step
whole step
half stepGordo
Hi Gordo
Yes the construction of the major scale is as you have listed. Not to belabor a point, but some will look at these intervals as either being major or minor. Here is an article that explains that point.
http://www.netplaces.com/music-theory/intervals/the-simple-intervals.htm
The main thing is to hear the intervals and to be able to identify them as a part of ear training. I looked at a web site yesterday that had an ear training generator and its interesting when worked with it. I think I scored about 60%
Another exercise that is useful is sing simple melodies – Happy Birthday, Amazing Grace, Jingle Bell, etc – and play the single notes as you sing. It helps your ear to identify the note and to see where the notes in on the fingerboard I try to spend 10 min or so each day with this exercise.
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March 20, 2013 at 12:08 am #10261
Practicing 2 string power chords may help somewhat. If you find a note with your index finger, let’s say a G on the low E string at the third fret. Now take your ring finger and put it on the fifth fret of the A string. Play these two strings. This is the same concept as the very basic 12 bar blues lesson everyone teaches including Brian. Open E string, and 2nd,4th,and 5th frets on the A string, then open A string etc. for the one chord, and likewise for the D portion or this well known shuffle. This principle can be moved anywhere on the fretboard that there is a string under where your index finger is playing and it has two frets higher to play. Your fingers will not be long enough to play all the notes on the higher string, unless you’ve got octopus hands, so it’ll be hard to play a shuffle all over the neck, but I think this might have other more practical applications for you like hearing the different sounds and learning the locations of the notes. Lots of room to work these into your regular playing too, I’m sure, if not now, later as you progress.
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March 20, 2013 at 6:43 pm #10279
@Bluezhawk wrote:
@ChordGuy wrote:
Quote:A Hi Gordo
Yes the construction of the major scale is as you have listed. Not to belabor a point, but some will look at these intervals as either being major or minor. Here is an article that explains that point.
http://www.netplaces.com/music-theory/intervals/the-simple-intervals.htm
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Hi Keith
LOL. Haven’t heard the term “belabor” (or belabour for us Canuks) in years. While spell checking it I learned what it means, not exactly what I thought. Still we should straighten out the info.
Checked your link.
Here is a much better link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interval_(music)Intervals measured from the root note in a major scale are
Major second (also could be called a diminished third)
Major third (aka. a diminished fourth)
Perfect fourth (aka. a augmented third)
Perfect fifth (aka. a diminished sixth)
Major sixth (aka. a diminished seventh)
Major seventh (aka. a diminished octave)
Octave (aka. augmented seventh)Measured sequentially they would be
Major second
Major second
minor second (aka. augmented unison)
Major second
Major second
Major second
Minor second. (aka. augmented unison)Neither yield your original list. Only the sequence of harmonized notes (or triads) of the Major scale will give your list.
Gordo
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March 20, 2013 at 11:31 pm #10285
Thanks for looking into this and posting the correct info Looking back, the info that I had posted had come from my study of chords
so that’s where my pursuit went awry. This should help us to stop ‘belaboring’ 🙂I think that we can agree that training to identify the note within the scale and/or key will be a very helpful skill to develop.as we are
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August 8, 2013 at 4:19 am #11214
Learning the notes on your fret board is very important if you are serous about playing guitar. That is one of the fundamental parts of playing. If you need something to assist you in learning you may want to consider using fret stickers. They are stickers you can place on your fret board that show each note.
You can get them online at http://fretstickers.com
I have also seen them on ebay, but I think they are from the same company.
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January 11, 2014 at 12:47 am #12791
Hey Guys…
you may like this $10 solution to help learn notes etc…
watch video… I may try this
http://youtu.be/RgHnHEaRV30You can also find and order them on Amazon…
Not found at guitar centers but I did find at guitar center a cool $15 little tool that shos all notes on fretboard then has the Major/Minor Pentatonic scale location as you slide up/down the neck
thought I would share
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January 14, 2014 at 10:27 pm #12861
What a wealth of info in such a small thread….all stuff I’ve been pondering on how best to find approaches to figuring out.
We all want to know it yesterday and this kind of thing is such a timesaver.
Great example of why it’s good to be part of a like minded group….
Thanks all.
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January 15, 2014 at 1:03 am #12864
For those of you who would really like to take a “deep dive” into musical understanding and music (not so scary really) theory (ie how things really work), check out this site… http://www.absolutelyunderstandguitar.com/index.php/the-six-main-areas-of-music
There are 3 1 hour long videos that start from, well, the start! Basic basic stuff to advanced…
I havent watched all of it but, man it really starts to “make sense” , as long as you put aside your pre-conceived notions about what you think you know…(no offense) and approach it with a totally open mind..ps I bookmarked this a little while ago, so if I got it from a member here, credit goes to them.
pps I normally wouldnt mention another guitar site, but as this isnt covered in depth here, I do so. I mean no disrespect -
February 7, 2014 at 6:26 pm #13147
@Neiles335 wrote:
For those of you who would really like to take a “deep dive” into musical understanding and music (not so scary really) theory (ie how things really work), check out this site… http://www.absolutelyunderstandguitar.com/index.php/the-six-main-areas-of-music
There are 3 1 hour long videos that start from, well, the start! Basic basic stuff to advanced…
I havent watched all of it but, man it really starts to “make sense” , as long as you put aside your pre-conceived notions about what you think you know…(no offense) and approach it with a totally open mind..ps I bookmarked this a little while ago, so if I got it from a member here, credit goes to them.
pps I normally wouldnt mention another guitar site, but as this isnt covered in depth here, I do so. I mean no disrespectThis guy sent me a complimentary copy of his course when I helped him with a counterfeiter! He knows his onions so well worth a watch.
BBG
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February 7, 2014 at 9:56 pm #13154
thats cool… you know you’ve got a good man when he does that sort of thing… I hope you get a lot out of it.
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February 7, 2014 at 11:18 pm #13156
@Neiles335 wrote:
thats cool… you know you’ve got a good man when he does that sort of thing… I hope you get a lot out of it.
It was a decade or more ago but it was informative, well organised and approached some subjects from a different angle to how I was used to seeing them so I did learn from it and it still sits on my bookshelf.
The nice thing was that it was a token of appreciation for a favour. He wasn’t obliged to give me anything but he did the nice thing and that, as you rightly say, is the mark of a good person.
BBG
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February 9, 2014 at 3:03 am #13168
Yes it’s true you will hear from someone I don’t know where the notes are in the fret board. And I can play
Just fine. Please don’t believe that nonsense !
I’m not sure where your at in experience, but if you don’t know every note on the fret board please
Consider stopping what ever your practicing ,
And start learning the notes. Without knowing the notes you cannot make a cord ! If I would say make a
A cord . You need to know what makes a A cord, and the same goes for B -C-D-E-F G .
I studied theory for almost a year before really playing a song or anything.
The music will come, but by knowing theory the door is open for your true talent to come out -
February 11, 2014 at 12:22 am #13185
@ChordGuy wrote:
Quote:A major scale consists of 7 tones that are as follows.
1 Major
2 Minor
3 Minor
4 Major
5 Major
6 Minor
7 Diminished
8 OctaveQuote:Hi Keith
what you have listed would be the triads based on the intervals, the intervals would bewhole step
whole step
half step
whole step
whole step
whole step
half stepGordo
This is a great post. Thanks Gordo.
The melody of the notes is what expresses the art of music . 🙂 6stringerPete
It really is all about ”melody”. The melody comes from a language from our heart. Our heart is the muscle in music harmony. The melody is the sweetness that it pumps into our musical thoughts on the fretboard. 🙂 6 stringer Pete
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