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November 24, 2017 at 3:53 pm #85418
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November 24, 2017 at 4:18 pm #85422
Oh a Squier, but which one and from which country..I love mysteries …
..Billy..
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November 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm #85423
Why do thinks its a Squier? Just curious
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November 24, 2017 at 4:37 pm #85424
Why do thinks its a Squier? Just curious
I’m using the “Force” Luke.. C’mon man, spill the beans and tell us something about it
..Billy..
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November 24, 2017 at 4:51 pm #85428
Well, Billy Skywalker, Obi Wan has taught you well.
According to the neck decal and serial number it is a Squier Strat from the mid 80s
As it can be seen that the original finish has been removed and clear-coated. The neck has no finish on it and is very smooth to play. Action is kinda high so will have to put some time into correcting that before I play it. Don’t have any 10’s to put on it and since the truss rod is probably adjusted for 10s, I don’t want to put a set of my 11’s on it. Musician’s Friend will get a set here by next Wednesday so I’ll play what’s on it until then.
When I put the new strings on it, I plan to pull the pickguard off of it to see if there are any identifying markings under it to confirm that it has the original pickups
If this should original except for the tremolo and the finish, the mid-80’s Squier are regarded as some of the highest quality Squier guitars that have been made.
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November 24, 2017 at 6:03 pm #85432
“E” if ircc tells me what you have there young skywalker is a U.S.A. made Squier from 88/89 I would be surprised if the internals where upgraded, course I am guessing that whomever stripped the guitar down knew what he/she had…
HNGD man, I cant wait to hear her voice....Billy..
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November 24, 2017 at 4:46 pm #85425
That is a good looking Fender,
GaryBoats'Blues.
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November 24, 2017 at 6:09 pm #85433
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November 24, 2017 at 6:27 pm #85434
I noticed the E in the serial number but its clearly marked Made In Japan
I’ll take a look at the link that you posted and see if gives any additional info
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November 24, 2017 at 6:57 pm #85435
I think it’s great you are giving this guitar a new lease on life. Japanese Fenders are highly regarded and should be a nice addition. Hope to hear it and see the finished product.
Mike
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November 24, 2017 at 7:15 pm #85438
Well the finished product is as shown. I found this gem on Ebay as you see it.
Only thing that I plan to do it so adjust the string height and check the intonation & neck relief after I
get a set of 10’s on it.As far as it being a permanent part of my collection, kinda doubt it. I bought it with the intent of resale or as a trade item but time will tell if I do or not
My Tribute Legacy is supposed to be Blue Burst but it is so dark, its almost black. Seeing this guitar having been changed to a natural finish, I may do the same with my Legacy, seeing that it is made with swamp ash and the wood grain is nice
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November 24, 2017 at 7:08 pm #85436
Sorry Keith,
You owe us more than this.
What’s the back story here. Not like you to be secretive.
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November 24, 2017 at 7:18 pm #85440
Not much more to tell about – I keep my eye open for a good deal and this guitar fell into that category
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November 24, 2017 at 7:09 pm #85437
I think it’s great you are giving this guitar a new lease on life. Japanese Fenders are highly regarded and should be a nice addition. Hope to hear it and see the finished product.
It isnt a Japanese Fender Mike, I dont think that it is a JV Squier either, If the serial number is correct and the E prefix genuine then I still reckon that it is a late 80’s American Squier. Still No matter what or when it is from I am sure it will be a great player and a great buy..
..Billy..
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November 24, 2017 at 7:22 pm #85441
Billy
The question remains – why is it marked Made In Japan? even if the serial number indicates otherwise? I think that the laws in the USA are such that Fender couldn’t have sold these marked MIJ if they hadn’t been made there
Not saying that you are wrong only that the serial number info, as we have & understand it, is a contradiction of terms in regard to the MIJ label
Many guitar companies have a convoluted system on serial numbers when it comes their import lines.
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November 25, 2017 at 3:02 am #85442
Billy
The question remains – why is it marked Made In Japan? even if the serial number indicates otherwise? I think that the laws in the USA are such that Fender couldn’t have sold these marked MIJ if they hadn’t been made there
Not saying that you are wrong only that the serial number info, as we have & understand it, is a contradiction of terms in regard to the MIJ label
Many guitar companies have a convoluted system on serial numbers when it comes their import lines.
That man is the 64’000 dollar question, chances are that I am probably wrong about the serial number, would you mind if I asked oppinion about your guitar over on the Squier form, they are a very knowledgable bunch on there?.
Are you going to give us a sound bite of how the pickups sound?...Billy..
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November 25, 2017 at 8:48 am #85450
I’ll post a sound byte eventually, I found some problems that will need to be corrected
first plus I’m still figuring out DAW’s and interfaces etc.Previous owner must have been a SRV wannabe. Not only is the action high at the brigde
but the string height at the nut is high and for whatever reason, it looks as though the
top of the nut has been filed off. By the nut height being as it is, strings 1 & 2 pop out
of the slot when bent. Hoping that there is enough room to file the string slots enough to
correct that; otherwise, I will have to order & install a new nut.Another thing that I observed as I was cleaning it – I think it would be safe to say that
there is zero wear on the neck. Not only are the fret wires undamaged, there is no indication
on the rosewood of it having been played. Looking more & more like a closet sleeper
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November 25, 2017 at 3:20 am #85443
It seems that 80s Squiers were ONLY made in Japan:
The Squier line was specifically created to be made in Japan (and later other low-wage markets once Japan became too expensive). Apparently, some Squiers were made in Mexico in the 90s. But in the 80s, only Japan knew how to make a quality guitar.
Which also means that this guitar is probably a better-built guitar than most MIA Fenders of the era.
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November 25, 2017 at 9:12 am #85459
Looking forward to hearing this one. Does everything work on it?
Tim
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November 25, 2017 at 10:06 am #85462
2 questions;
Are the “Made in Japan” and Serial number both plastic stickers?
What do you make of the small screw holes on the headstock?
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November 25, 2017 at 11:00 am #85465
2 questions;
Are the “Made in Japan” and Serial number both plastic stickers?
What do you make of the small screw holes on the headstock?
RonLooks like a previous owner swapped out the original string-tees for barrel types?
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November 25, 2017 at 11:25 am #85467
I thought squires and Mexican strats were three piece bodies. Maybe that happened later.
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November 25, 2017 at 11:34 am #85468
2 questions;
Are the “Made in Japan” and Serial number both plastic stickers?
What do you make of the small screw holes on the headstock?
RonLooks like a previous owner swapped out the original string-tees for barrel types?
I agree that the previous owner swapped out the original string-tees but for some reason, didn’t install them in the same location
They also covered the truss rod adjustment screw with the pickguard LOL
As far as the serial number and Made In Japan label, they look like standard Fender screening instead of a counterfeit label
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November 25, 2017 at 12:43 pm #85471
I’ll post a sound byte eventually, I found some problems that will need to be corrected
first plus I’m still figuring out DAW’s and interfaces etc.Previous owner must have been a SRV wannabe. Not only is the action high at the brigde
but the string height at the nut is high and for whatever reason, it looks as though the
top of the nut has been filed off. By the nut height being as it is, strings 1 & 2 pop out
of the slot when bent. Hoping that there is enough room to file the string slots enough to
correct that; otherwise, I will have to order & install a new nut.Another thing that I observed as I was cleaning it – I think it would be safe to say that
there is zero wear on the neck. Not only are the fret wires undamaged, there is no indication
on the rosewood of it having been played. Looking more & more like a closet sleeperThat gives me more reason to be doubting the serial number, Is the logo and serial number a water slide decal. Yes I agree, new nut( bone?), I set all my Squiers or Strat style guitars to ..Fenders set up spec’s.. and then fine tune the action from there, we all need a starting point, no?.
good luck with the little jobs that need done....Billy..
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November 26, 2017 at 1:57 am #85499
Nice find, Keith.
The melody of the notes is what expresses the art of music . 🙂 6stringerPete
It really is all about ”melody”. The melody comes from a language from our heart. Our heart is the muscle in music harmony. The melody is the sweetness that it pumps into our musical thoughts on the fretboard. 🙂 6 stringer Pete
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November 26, 2017 at 8:00 am #85516
I’ll post a sound byte eventually, I found some problems that will need to be corrected
first plus I’m still figuring out DAW’s and interfaces etc.Previous owner must have been a SRV wannabe. Not only is the action high at the brigde
but the string height at the nut is high and for whatever reason, it looks as though the
top of the nut has been filed off. By the nut height being as it is, strings 1 & 2 pop out
of the slot when bent. Hoping that there is enough room to file the string slots enough to
correct that; otherwise, I will have to order & install a new nut.Another thing that I observed as I was cleaning it – I think it would be safe to say that
there is zero wear on the neck. Not only are the fret wires undamaged, there is no indication
on the rosewood of it having been played. Looking more & more like a closet sleeperThat gives me more reason to be doubting the serial number, Is the logo and serial number a water slide decal. Yes I agree, new nut( bone?), I set all my Squiers or Strat style guitars to ..Fenders set up spec’s.. and then fine tune the action from there, we all need a starting point, no?.
good luck with the little jobs that need done..I always start a set up by following the guidelines from Frets.com for string height at the nut. If that isn’t set correctly, you either have fret buzz (too low) or the guitar plays sharp, most noticeable on 2nd fret of the 3rd string (too high)
http://frets.com/FretsPages/Musician/GenSetup/NutAction/nutaction.html
Owning G&L, I follow their setup guidelines since the 2 point fulcurm trem unit is different. If memory serves me correctly, I have to set the height of the trem unit from the body first.
I then check the neck relief to make sure its close. I’ll set the string heigh next and I’ll admit, I’m a hack on this. I lower until the string starts to buzz and then raise about a half turn of the Allen wrench. When I’m done, I’ll check the radius of the strings close to the saddles to see if they are close to the neck radius.
At that point, I will deal with the intonation and fine tune the neck relief.Right or wrong – that’s my method and my guitars seem mto play well afterwards.
Finding the info on Frets.com about the string height at the nut was paramount to make a guitar play in tune. After I bought my Comanche, I noticed that every note at every fret was in tune – it had been on the PLEK machine at the factory and I saw what a difference it made. So I started looking for the reason that most guitars sound out of tune on the 2nd fret of the 3rd string and I found the article at Frets.com
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November 26, 2017 at 8:26 am #85525
Great posting there kiddo, I like delving in to the technical side of guitar things. I will certainly have a look/read/save of the link you shared..
..Billy..
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November 26, 2017 at 12:36 pm #85538
If the decal is on top of the finish and not under…. um…. who knows what the guitar is???
But why would anyone fake a Squier?
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November 27, 2017 at 5:15 am #85593
If the decal is on top of the finish and not under…. um…. who knows what the guitar is???
But why would anyone fake a Squier?
MIJ Squiers command money in the region of a usa standard strat..
I posted questions about Keiths Squier on the Squier forum, I was wrong about the guitar and it has been confirmed that it is a 1986 MIJ Squier, gold hardwear is not standard though, cocensus is that the body has been stripped and truoiled to give the natural finish..I appologise Keith for getting it wrong about your guitar....Billy..
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November 27, 2017 at 11:29 am #85613
If the decal is on top of the finish and not under…. um…. who knows what the guitar is???
But why would anyone fake a Squier?
MIJ Squiers command money in the region of a usa standard strat..
I posted questions about Keiths Squier on the Squier forum, I was wrong about the guitar and it has been confirmed that it is a 1986 MIJ Squier, gold hardwear is not standard though, cocensus is that the body has been stripped and truoiled to give the natural finish..I appologise Keith for getting it wrong about your guitar..Hey Billy
No need for an apology – this is a learning experience for all of us
Hmmm, 1986 huh? Cool – When I get strings later this week, I’ll lift the pickguard to see if there might be
any identifying marks – doubt it but won’t take long to checkThanks Billy
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