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July 20, 2012 at 3:21 am #4126
Curious if anyone using a modeling amp – Line 6, Fender, Peavey, etc?
I’m using a Fender Mustang 3 with various guitars. Very impressed with the overall tone that comes from it.
Now if someone handed me the keys to a good tube amp like a Fender Deluxe Reverb, a Vibrolux or a Peavey Delta Blues, I would probably turn the Mustang out to pasture, but for now, its all I need.
What is your setup?
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July 20, 2012 at 5:07 am #8236
I play harp and guitar. I have two green bullet mics, and one tele. For amps I have an old about 1982 Yamaha with an 8 inch speaker with volume and master volume on it plus reverb. It has a good tone to it and its solid state and no buzzing. I also have a Crate 20 watt
with chorus and a clean and dirty channel. I never liked that amp. It never had any pump to it, until I plugged in a D O D Preamp with a volume pot on it. This preamp is from about 1982. Now I like it. I seem to get some good sounds. The Yamaha is a great little amp about 15 watts and it cooks. I carry it in a typewriter case. That blows people away. In the future I want a Peavey Delta Blues.
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July 21, 2012 at 5:12 am #8238
Hey Bluezhawk – when I play at home (all of the videos I do on YouTube and for ActiveMelody) I use an amp modeler. I’m playing with a Boss BD-2 pedal running through an old Line 6 POD.. the Line 6 is basically set to a clean channel Fender style amp w/ a little reverb. That’s pretty much all I use for most of my tone.
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July 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm #8244Anonymous
My previous amp was a Vox Valvetronix 20+ that sports a valve in final amp.
Many settings , too many for me and never the sound I would…
I sold it.Two years ago I bought a Spider Mini to take with me in the town where i work now so I could play nightime.
To play with it was always so pleasant that recencently bought a Line6 spider IV 30W with FVB Pedal and in my opinion it performes great. Line 6 as really good sound alghorytms.. I consider the best in digital modeling.
Its is simple and the tone is always good even using heavy distortion.
The 12″ Celestion cone does a very good job too..I mostly love the Twang and Blues modes perfect for my Stratocaster 50′.
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July 23, 2012 at 6:26 am #8245
I’m using a new limited blues edition Fender G-dec 30. This is my first amp..it is awesome. Dozens of different amp tones, 100 built in backing band tracks, load your own btracs from a sd card, metronome, tuner, 2 input jacks, supports pa system, 10″ speaker plus tweeterrs …..and much more. Super tone and loads of power…mindboggling possibilities.A bit overwhelming at first but getting into it making newdiscoveries every time i play it! My es 335 sounds amazing through it. If anyone else is using a G dec I d likke
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November 16, 2012 at 10:38 am #8649Anonymous
I have a small collection of amps & they all serve my purpose for which they’re used. Like Brian, I have been plugging into the computer via a Line6 device, a Pod Studio GX which came with Pod Farm 2 software for under $100.00 Definitely recommend it. For amps, I have an old Peavey Studio Pro 112, one of the originals which was made in U.S.A. ( later ones were made in China) which I use clean but with effects & an outboard amp modeler.. I was lucky to get that back from a home burglary, but I didn’t recover 5 guitars that were taken. I also have a Peavey Classic 20 Tube amp which doesn’t get much use these days, I also have a LEEM multiple amp that I can use with keyboards, bass or guitar. It’s especially good with acoustic guitar. Next & most recently, I bought a Vox Mini3 practice amp that has some modeling & can be used with battery power. It’s very portable & fun to play in the yard or anywhere else for that matter & last, I have a cheap Casino 12 solid state amp I bought years ago & now lives permanently on my porch. I use it with a Behringer Acoustic modeler with my acoustic or with a Korg Toneworks AX100G for electric.
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November 16, 2012 at 2:29 pm #8657
Since I posted the original thread, I’ve traded my Mustang amp tor another amp. I guess that I’m too old school and I went back to a tube amp.
For single coils, the Mustang was good but I couldn’t get the tone with humbuckers that I was looking for. The tone was sterile to give it the best score that I could. I was trying for a fairly clean tone like you hear from Dickey Betts or Robben Ford
I traded the Mustang to a Jet City 20 watt all tube combo. I already had a Peavey Classic 30 that I had traded a guitar for. I’m planning to sell the Jet City – its a good amp but it has a very strong British voice. If a person was looking for a Jimmy Page or Tony Iommi in the early days of Black Sabbath, this would be great amp for them
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November 17, 2012 at 10:25 pm #8667
@Bluezhawk wrote:
Curious if anyone using a modeling amp – Line 6, Fender, Peavey, etc?
I’m using a Fender Mustang 3 with various guitars. Very impressed with the overall tone that comes from it.
Now if someone handed me the keys to a good tube amp like a Fender Deluxe Reverb, a Vibrolux or a Peavey Delta Blues, I would probably turn the Mustang out to pasture, but for now, its all I need.
What is your setup?At this exact moment I’m using my new, 3+ months old, Fender Mustang III amp, and my ‘newish’ Squire [by Fender;-)] Classic Vibe 50’s Strat. All my other gear can be found on my profile page. And I love this amp, it’s the best I’ve had over my (cough) ‘many years’.
Today I’ll be working on Brian’s new Jazz Lesson, Part 1, and I have the Strat set like Brian does in the lesson. And the Mustang is set on #44, ‘Ballsy Deluxe’. It’s modeling a ’65 Deluxe with effects. That combo matches the sound of this Jazz Lesson the best.
Re: Mustang III — I still haven’t installed the Fender Fuse Software, my pc is junk, so I haven’t dug into all of what that Amp can do hooked to a computer. (the last time I connected a guitar to a Tube Amp was June of 1966, when I was a Sr in HS and taking lessons. So now ‘close enough’ to Tube Amp sound in okay by me :coolsmile: .
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November 17, 2012 at 10:35 pm #8668
I was impressed with Mustang iii when playing single coil guitars. My fave was the 57 Deluxe, it even has the compressed sound of tubes which is quite remarkable from a modeling amp. My displeasure with the amp was with humbuckers in trying to get a clean tone. It always sounded very sterile and lifeless to me.
The real strength of the Mustang is using with the FUSE software. You will be surprised what you can do when you load that, many presets that you can download from the FUSE website
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November 20, 2012 at 2:18 am #8692
Bluzehawk,
Do you feel the Fuse software has the capability to make a humbucker guitar sound not quite so sterile? I just sold my Classic 20 and was thinking of a Mustang III for use with my Epi Dot.
Steve
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November 20, 2012 at 2:37 am #8693Anonymous
I’m guessing that the Mustang III is setup to perform best with Fender guitars & most of them are single coil. Makes sense to me but you’d think they could have put a switch to select single coil or humbucker input, after all, they go to a lot of trouble to emulate different combinations but they would have to base those emulations on a particular sound source. I don’t have one, but have seen some demo’s on Youtube & it looks pretty cool, but as Bluezhawk noticed, it may be tuned for single coil pickups.
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November 20, 2012 at 3:14 am #8694
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The main problem with the Mustang & FUSE software being used with Humbuckers is primarily what I was looking for. Dickey Betts is one my favorite guitarist and the overall tone that he had on songs like Melissa & Nancy was a nice full clean tone. I worked and worked with FUSE, downloaded presets that other had uploaded and I just couldn’t get it. Here are links to those 2 songs so you will have an idea of what I’m referring to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwbowi-8Yoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXn-SorWl1YI’m also a fan of Alvin Lee & Ten Years After and with the Mustang, I could emulate his tone fairly close. Its just that basically clean tone that I wanted that I couldn’t get. I uploaded several presets for HBs that got favorable comments so don’t think that the Mustang can’t be used for HBs.
Because of my experience with the Mustang, I traded a guitar for a Peavey Classic 30 in very good condition -, used the same guitar and within 30 seconds had a tone that was very close to what I was looking for. Peavey’s are a good choice for a tube amp that won’t break the bank.
I was looking on Craigslist last week and noticed a Classic 50 410 advertised that had been on there for several weeks. He had been trying to trade for a Tele but he changed his ad and said that he was also looking for small tube amp with 1 – 12″. Long story short – I ended up trading my Classic 30 even to his 50. It’s more amp than I need right now but its tone to the bone for sure. The Classic 50 is beat up, reeked of cigarette smoke but like I told one guy, it screams the blues but has that nice low end that gives you a good jazzy tone too.
The next day, I traded my Mustang to a Jet City 20 watt 112 tube combo that looks totally new. If a person was in to Led Zep or early Black Sabbath, that is the amp for them. Its very British in its voicing and doesn’t have much clean headroom but the overdrive is really smooth. Some have swapped the 12AX7 preamp and installed 12AT7 so it would have a little less gain and more clean headroom. For 20 watts, it is loud. I plan to sell it but its fun to play around with in the meantime.Don’t be afraid to try the Mustang, its a decent amp. Just realize that it does have it shortcomings.
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November 20, 2012 at 3:56 am #8695
The local music store was sold out of -IIIs so I had the salesman plug in an older Epi semi-hollow (not a Dot) into a Mustang IV. He played while I tinkered with the amp. It sounded great to me. Even the saleskid perked up and nodded approvingly when I twirled the preset knob to “Fender Bassman” while he was riffing.
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November 20, 2012 at 4:26 am #8696
The Mustang will probably serve you well.
Guitarist chasin’ tone is an age old dilemma that we find ourselves in. Seems that we can’t be satisfied until we do find.
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December 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm #9026
This topic caught my eye simply because it was about modelling amps. I don’t profess to know much, but have two cents to spend. I have been the vocalist for many years, in many bands, and so have been close to a lot of lead guitarists and their variety of amps. I take note of the sounds simply because I must fit in, and accompany them, with some sort of harmony hopefully.
Lo and behold, I sat down one night to the news that our long-term rhythm guitarist was leaving for overseas. Perplexed about what to do the guys turned to me, knowing that I had a smattering of chords, but no real experience live.
So, I bought a couple guitars, and had to choose an amp for versatility, because of the breadth of material we do. The lead guitarist runs two amps A/B an old 60W Fender (60’s vintage) and a Marshall solid.
So, I bought a Line6 Spider IV 75w.
As I said, I have little real experience, but this amp makes even me sound good, most of the night.
I thought I might replace it after six months, but I have yet to find its limits, and even the other guys compliment its sounds.
I normally use just three for most of the night, but another four do come into play on chosen songs. There are actually some 250 available as stock, most of them specialist in nature, but still fun and inspiring at this stage of my learning.
I don’t think I will outgrow it in a hurry, as I need to actually learn how to play a lot of stuff first, so expect me here asking about simple stuff.
My first post, hopefully more to come.
Thanks for the topic and the opportunities.
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