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August 14, 2019 at 8:00 am #141385
I have been using my Jam Man Looper pedal a lot lately yet I can’t seem to eliminate the gap or break between the end and beginning of a rhythm or jam along piece. Does that make sense? Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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August 14, 2019 at 8:54 am #141387
Has your Jam Man always performed like that or is it, as they say, ‘pilot error’
I don’t use that looper John but I know using my Boss R3, you have to be ‘very careful’ to hit the ‘end record’ pedal stomp accurately to achieve continuity. To do this I often play past the end while I hit the stop-record foot pedal.
It does take practice to get it just right.Richard
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August 14, 2019 at 9:38 am #141388
When I used my looper, what I did was to play my chord progression a few times while rapping my right foot to keep time, once I felt comfortable I would tap the looper on the 1st beat of start to my chord progression while still tapping my foot to keep time, when it came to the end of the progression the last tap of my foot would be to the looper.
..Billy..
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August 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm #141396
Billy speaks the truth. You have to play at least one chord cycle before you hit the button and start your loop. Even then it can be very difficult to hit the button at the right time. BUT NOTE: All Boss loopers have automatic synchronization, so that if you hit the button a little too early or too late, it corrects it. In order for it to work, you must have one of the built-in drum tracks or the metronome turned on. Other loopers that lack this function require you to hit the button precisely on beat one. Most people have trouble doing that, which is why used non-Boss looper pedals are the number one most common pedals for sale on eBay. So my first recommendation would be for you to go ahead and buy yourself a Boss looper. Then watch some Youtube video tutorials on how to use it. I would go straight for the Boss RC-30 (easier to use) or RC-300 (easiest to use), because the RC-3 single pedal looper requires a double tap to stop the loop, whereas the other two have one pedal to start, and one pedal to stop. Here’s an example of what you can do with the RC-30:
Sunjamr Steve
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August 14, 2019 at 5:29 pm #141405
I didn’t know that Boss pedals did that Steve, is this also true of the RC-1 boss looper?.I ask because this is the looper I have but it took me many failed attempts before my head thought and foot tap worked in unison ..
..Billy..
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August 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm #141457
I’m not sure if the Boss RC-1 does the auto-quantize thing, because I’ve only ever used the RC-3 and RC-300. But I do know that you have to be using the built-in metronome or drum tracks. Another thing to mention: With the RC-3, you can’t just enter the tempo you want manually. You have to push a button in time with your beat, then it just locks onto that tempo. But with the RC-30 and RC-300, you can just turn a knob to choose your desired tempo.
Sunjamr Steve
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August 14, 2019 at 8:45 pm #141414
John – the JamMan has the same feature Steve mentions. Look up Auto-Quantize Looping in the owner’s manual.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/380773/Digitech-Jamman.html?page=51
-Doug
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August 16, 2019 at 5:55 am #141506
I’m not sure if the Boss RC-1 does the auto-quantize thing, because I’ve only ever used the RC-3 and RC-300. But I do know that you have to be using the built-in metronome or drum tracks. Another thing to mention: With the RC-3, you can’t just enter the tempo you want manually. You have to push a button in time with your beat, then it just locks onto that tempo. But with the RC-30 and RC-300, you can just turn a knob to choose your desired tempo.
Appears you can manually enter the tempo with the Jamman solo see video about 4mins in
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August 17, 2019 at 7:07 am #141582
Thanks fellas for your input. I will have some time this weekend to look at this.
John
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September 22, 2019 at 2:44 am #144706
This post was very interresting to me, because i give up with my RC 3 looper long time ago..because of the same problems like John had and ask here.
So after i read this post i was thinking to buy me an nice RC 30 Looper to start again for easier and better practicing. i was specially interrested in the 1 step stop and like sunjamer wrote earlier it will have a knob to adjust the tempo.
But i find out that the now here in germany available RC 30 and 300 ones also only equipped with the tab button to set the tempo same as the RC 3 so i investigate more about it.
I think interresting for all RC 3 users, i found out that also the RC 3 has the automatic selfadjusting Loop function and you can use it also with a simple one step stop function if you connect a 2nd external Boss FS-5U or FS 6 food switch.
so i will buy me first a external food switch for only 20 bugs because the RC 30 and specially the RC 300 are very expensive here.
I thought may some folks will be interrested in this too.
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September 22, 2019 at 4:56 am #144711
I sampled a Boss RC 30 with the two pedals thought the effects were poor also I could not get the rhythm volume down low enough it was either on too loud or cut of turning the volume so sent it back. I see boss has a new Rc-10r with two pedals and a much better rhythm section I like the graphics rings which show where you are in the loop also on the R 1 but could not find much details for the looper in the new Rc-10r manual also quite expensive.
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