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November 13, 2019 at 1:35 pm #150330
I wasn’t sure what I was watching here but this lesson looks like a complete ‘rip-off of Brian’s EP065. I will alert Brian my email.
Richard
Brian’s EP065
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November 13, 2019 at 1:56 pm #150333
Amazing! Sure sounds better when Brian plays it. I’d sure rather listen to Brian teach it, also.
I’ve often noticed that little fine print at the bottom of each Brian’s tab sheets, “International Copyright Secured”. This could be interesting.
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November 13, 2019 at 2:14 pm #150335
Ugh, yes, that is remarkedly similar. This video is from 2016 and Brian’s lesson came out in 2014. I’m tempted to post the link to Brian’s ORIGINAL in the comments. The guy even used the same wording as Brian but of course, he’s nothing compared to Brian when it comes to playing and teaching. It sure sounds like a ripoff, though. Good find, Richard!
🎸JoLa
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November 13, 2019 at 3:59 pm #150348
Sadly he is not as good a player as Brian is, tbh I have often wondered about the free content once it’s given to us we are encouraged to learn and play it, heck we are even encouraged to record and share it with the world, so where does copyright belong in something that has been given for free..
The imposter guy could quite easily have come by the lesson the same way we have, changed the key and added in some improvs..
I suppose if he is making money from the song then that would possibly open up a whole different ball game....Billy..
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November 13, 2019 at 5:56 pm #150361
Billy, I think there’s a big difference between playing/sharing a Brian’s lesson and posting a video TUTORIAL of something that sounds like a ripoff of Brian’s lesson and is meant to attract subscribers and thus generate income to THEM, and not Brian. That’s where the copyrights come in.
I just wonder what are the odds of somebody coming up with an ‘original’ song that sounds so similar to Active Melody lesson?🎸JoLa
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November 13, 2019 at 6:10 pm #150362
I agree with you 100% Jola, but I don’t know enough to give an opinion on what’s infringement and what’s not, the question I was raising was about free content, if it’s given freely then how can their be copyright, I get it about the paid subscription premium content and it being protected..but if you give something to someone for free, then can you really pit a restriction on it?. Not trying to be awkward here but it does open the discussion..
..Billy..
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November 13, 2019 at 5:00 pm #150352
I seen this guy here too,, it is a shame but to be honest now,, I’m getting a bit advanced and avtually have a youtube account with basically all active melody lessons..i’m not set up for anything other than what was explained here many seasons ago to participate in Active Melody monthyu challemge lessons or the lessons inbetween the monthly challenges;; i see recently someone getting way more hits responses here playing something cool but not an active melody lesson,,i however recently showpayed a somewhat decent showplay of the most recent lesson (ep 334) with basically a fraction of responses
my point is this ,I like the lessons but not sure why or how algorithms etc work here as I do expect premium quality as a member
I see more newbies when I log on and honestly believe these forums are not open forums as it use to be..perhaps it is time i do another complete wash out for everything i’ve contributed
i just get the notion when logging in and reading latest posts etc.
this guy i have no clue who he is but agree with RICHARD.. I MYSELF WOULDN’T DO WHAT THIS GUY IS DOING.. BUT HONESTLY.. HASN’T THIS BEEN PLAYED ALREADY BY OTHERS BEFORE Brian MADE IT A LESSON?
ONLY OUT OF RESPECT! BTW..I DON;T REALLY KNOW WHAT IS VIOLATING WHO THESE DAYS ONLINE HA
if i post too much well ,it is what it is , i enjoy sharing my progress but maybe i too might have to reread the tos ? HAHA beats me, i’m only going to practice and enjoy as a paid premium subscriber
lately, i’ll share thoughts with those who share thoughts in reply period..that’s how it works here on my end.. enjoy your subscription too
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November 13, 2019 at 5:39 pm #150355
Asking Brian if he wants me to go to my YouTube channel and delete most of the stuff 😂..out of respect because I have so much active Melody clips.. maybe it’s just the right thing to do..I never thought about it but.. it is likely that I will continue to play and participate in the future..just let me know Brian .. I will respect your decision
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November 13, 2019 at 5:44 pm #150358
What’s it got to do with anything you have on your YouTube channel John, we all have a multitude of lessons on our own tube or SoundCloud accounts..i hate to tell you this kiddo, but the internet is not all about you so put the beers down..hahaha
..Billy..
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November 13, 2019 at 5:41 pm #150356
I think I have like 11 subscribers anyway on my YouTube channel LoL
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November 13, 2019 at 5:42 pm #150357
Most of the stuff is just to share on this site I should hope LoL
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November 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm #150359
I wish I knew who the 11 subscribers are..have no idea..I don’t communicate on YouTube but for a for music channels like here..and I don’t bother with fun or Twitter or the like..just an old fashion subscriber I guess…buy yeah YouTube is what it is but I can certainly delete that account and my showplays..keep current ones to have for showplays and stuff..not sure if algorithm is good bad or what here
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November 13, 2019 at 5:53 pm #150360
BTW Richard G how on Earth did did you get the video of that guy doing Brian lesson? Thought it might be a good question
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November 13, 2019 at 6:24 pm #150363
What’s it got to do with anything you have on your YouTube channel John, we all have a multitude of lessons on our own tube or SoundCloud accounts..i hate to tell you this kiddo, but the internet is not all about you so put the beers down..hahaha
BILLY I am just womdering if my youtube account with all the lessons I leave there,, 99% are active melody lessons..think i see 11 subscribers to my public channel..just wondering if after reading RichardG,,maybe Brian would rather me be ow key and not have all active Melody lol..most of my stuff really sucks compared to Brians anyway haha i actually thought i was private on youtube not even sure how it works to be quite honest. (too cold for beer ..i’m into cheap red wines now now) did you watch my last showplays tet? omg! lol
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November 13, 2019 at 6:41 pm #150364
Billy, I think there’s a big difference between playing/sharing a Brian’s lesson and posting a video TUTORIAL of something that sounds like a ripoff of Brian’s lesson and is meant to attract subscribers and thus generate income to THEM, and not Brian. That’s where the copyrights come in.
I just wonder what are the odds of somebody coming up with an ‘original’ song that sounds so similar to Active Melody lesson?jola most of what we take away here on active Melody has already been done under the sun, that guy i seen here before a couple times over the five years I been a premium member
yes agree, he is in a sense infringing but on legal grounds it likely just another showplay unless there is youtube algo robots to say otherwise
most anything here regardless is not original or copyrightand as I read youtube algos would have deemed it such faster than we could type our responses. threof
so if it is there, I suppose that guy is in the clear!
I personally want to know if I should delete most my youtube videos cause if Brian think it best I will no questions asked..i won’t take it personall.. i want him to continue..i trust Brian more than youtube algo terms etc!
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November 13, 2019 at 7:16 pm #150365
John, I don’t know why you would think Brian would want your Youtube videos taken down, lol? If anything, you are actually PROMOTING Active Melody by playing and showcasing Brian’s lessons.
The point here is that the YT guy Richard found is playing and teaching a Brian’s blues composition like it’s his own. Maybe it’s not a big deal at all but imagine if he did that with every Brian’s lesson on his channel to generate INCOME??🎸JoLa
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November 13, 2019 at 7:34 pm #150367
That’s a good point, but surely it has to be 3stablished 1st off if he is generating an income, what if he is only passing on something he has learned for free for free,;is that any different to one of us sharing what we have learned in a lesson?
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November 13, 2019 at 7:28 pm #150366
That’s a good discussion, Billy, I hear ya 🙂 I guess it would be up to lawyers to figure out the semantics, what exactly is “free” in Brian’s lessons and what is copyright infringement here.
Personally, it just doesn’t feel right to me. I understand that you’re free to learn, play and showcase you playing Brian’s lessons but to post one in your own channel like it’s yours and teach it to others in the hope they subscribe and buy tabs from you…. that’s a different story – unless you credit Brian and/or do it with his permission. And like I said to John, imagine if he did that with every Active Melody lesson?
🎸JoLa
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November 13, 2019 at 8:29 pm #150369
I know as a born and raised 3rd generation American, if I had even a dime for every infringement against me by the united states feds and corruption I witness on ppv tv lol oh forget about it!.. Music is cool,, steal my originals,,i do not think i can take them with me so let’s just live for the gift and pleasure of any music.. laWYERS A TRULY LEGAL THIEVES AND THE SAD TRUTH IS THEY KNOW IT!
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November 14, 2019 at 4:40 am #150379
Has anyone brought this to Brian’s attention?.
..Billy..
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November 14, 2019 at 4:51 am #150380
Yes Billy, I emailed him yesterday …..Richard
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November 14, 2019 at 6:54 am #150387
Well played kiddo..
..Billy..
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November 14, 2019 at 5:32 am #150381
This last year when I print of tabs for lessons the copyright info at the bottom of the page and the page numbers do not show if they are to near the bottom of the page I am using windows and Epson printer.
Yea guys got a brass neck will be interesting to see if YouTube does something or what Brian can do if they don’t.
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November 14, 2019 at 6:09 am #150384
The website this lesson appears on has a $9.99 monthly subscription rate, so this would appear to be copyright infringement for profit.
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November 14, 2019 at 6:42 am #150386
As you said earlier John, the tablature for EP065 carries the normal ‘Copyright http://www.ActiveMelody.com’ etc etc.
I didn’t pay the $1.50 to check the guys tab but I would suspect Brian could tell if his original has been cloned in any way, particularly if there is anything unique to Brian’s style of composition in it.Richard
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November 14, 2019 at 7:25 am #150390
Definitely sounds like a good case of copyright infringement. keep us informed Richard G.. ! suppose you happened across this guys site by searching for this lesson elsewhere probably recommended for you on youtube search history suggestions? Anyway copyright is all that matters
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November 14, 2019 at 7:57 am #150392
No John, I didn’t search it, the icon appeared on my YouTube homepage, I naturally thought it looked interesting, so when I selected it and the guy started to play, I thought the melody sounded familiar, and of course it was, I’d learnt it as EP065 all those years ago.
Richard
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November 14, 2019 at 9:03 am #150394
Ugh, yes, that is remarkedly similar. This video is from 2016 and Brian’s lesson came out in 2014. I’m tempted to post the link to Brian’s ORIGINAL in the comments. The guy even used the same wording as Brian but of course, he’s nothing compared to Brian when it comes to playing and teaching. It sure sounds like a ripoff, though. Good find, Richard!
I just did post a link in the comments to Brian’s lesson😀 wonder if they will reply?
Vorocnan
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November 14, 2019 at 6:06 pm #150437
👍 🙂
🎸JoLa
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November 14, 2019 at 11:14 am #150396
1st chance I’ve had to have a wander through their website, it is nothing spectacular imho. Not sure about their style of tuition, some of their videos are very polished and some others I’ve seen replicated a thousand times on guitar tuition websites..
..Billy..
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November 14, 2019 at 1:11 pm #150400
So In the comments for the copy video Richard G has posted a comment and if you click my comment open Brian has commented yes definetly a copy. Link to the copy here then scroll down to comments
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November 14, 2019 at 2:52 pm #150419
Since they got over 30,000 views, I would say they owe Brian some compensation. Plus it should be removed from Youtube. BTW, a while back I notified Brian that someone had set up a fake ActiveMelody Facebook page. The last time I looked, it was still there.
Sunjamr Steve
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November 14, 2019 at 4:44 pm #150430
I don’t believe there will ever be enough watchdogs ( just like wallstreet insider corruption)
bottom line is if it is truly copyright infringement,,Brian has a case,sure he has an established business too with lawyers
I am surprised though that youtube algorithms did nothing about this,..perhaps it’s a money thing
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November 15, 2019 at 4:27 pm #150502
That’s more than a coincidence! Wow! How did he think that would go unnoticed?
Don D.
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November 15, 2019 at 7:04 pm #150510
yeah but the question remains who step on the bag first..i still say from my own experience with youtube for just using someones video to play along with..they were quick within a day to inform me of copyright infringement once with the Knophler and once with the crazy diamond youtubers video/ but it was a warning in terms of marketing someone’s copyright material on youtube.. so this whole thing is a stretch .. I mean who really owns what if there is no copyright afterall?
question is still pending and unanswered.. who did the lesson/tab first or is it public domain material( not copyright)?
I just visited the site first time ever.. first impression is I doubt I need to go deep or subscribe to the channel.. it’s basic stuff as I seen it for first latest lessons 30 seconds couldn’t handle it lol..I can get most what I care to use for free when and if ever I choose.
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November 15, 2019 at 7:12 pm #150511
I wish I knew who the 11 subscribers are..have no idea..I don’t communicate on YouTube but for a for music channels like here..and I don’t use or subscribe to either facebook or Twitter etc…just an old fashion I guess… YouTube is what it is. I needed an account to share on the forums my showplays for practice and development ( to get tips share tips is fun) but I can certainly delete that account and my showplays..keep current ones to have for showplays and stuff..not sure if algorithm data mining etc. is good bad long term
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December 7, 2019 at 5:07 pm #152420
I think as time goes on , many of these teachers will just be on subscription model only for their lessons, just giving a brief introduction to their work on You Tube, then offering the subscription probably like Fender Play. Which I believe is fair, due to the amount Brian and other teachers do on You Tube,
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