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December 19, 2012 at 3:52 am #4409
I am practicing the solo from pink floyds another brick in the wall and it’s going great if a little slow, however my main problem is my finger attaching itself to another string when i bend into it and producing ringing when i release the bend, when i push up a string such as b into g and d, when i release b back down i get ringing from g as it tries to hold on to my finger nail, in fact it isn’t my finger nail, it tries to get up between my nail and my finger and jams in the groove, any idea’s?
Neil.
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December 19, 2012 at 11:15 am #9017Anonymous
Hi Neil,
I guess all I can suggest is that the songs you are attempting require quite some advanced techniques. It’s good to see you are giving them a go but you risk the problem of becoming frustrated. As they say, you shouldn’t run before you can walk. I still practice my bends all over the fret board, one string, two string bends, half bends, passing notes…all of them take time & practice, practice, practice.
If I could make a suggestion, it would be to tackle something that stretches your present ability, practice it & get it right & you will feel elated with your accomplishments. Slow blues are great for this as speed is not required, it’s feeling. Cheers & good luck.
Have a great Christmas, hope Santa brings you a shiny new guitar or amp or even a new set of strings…. Mike -
December 20, 2012 at 1:53 am #9019
lol Thanks Mike, i know what you mean and i do practice slow bluesy riffs which are great, i am just using another brick as my go to, when i want to try something that i recognize and just do bits at a time, i am thoroughly enjoying my guitar journey and feel great when i accomplish something….thanks for the reply and have a great Christmas mate.
Neil.
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December 20, 2012 at 2:17 am #9020
Hey Neil,
I completely understand what your experiencing, I too had the same problem. I think that this suddenly one day over time seems to just go away. But, it wasn’t until I exhausted myself daily, over and over running the scales and adding bends as I moved along. Using the slow blues licks really seems to help also. Like you I was attempting a song I knew and screwed it up a lot with having other strings catch on my fingers and ruin what I was attempting. I took on Comfortably Numb by Pink Floyd, there are a couple great backing tracks for this on YouTube. I would encourage you to continue with attempting those David Gilmour licks, but run the scales and practice with the slow blues. I still go back and forth and Comfortably Numb gets better every single time. My arm is in a sling right now so I’m not getting in the practice I need.
Keep it up brother, it will suddenly happen. It did for me. It’s like weight lifting with your fingers, eventually they are coordinated enough and strong enough. -
December 20, 2012 at 5:41 pm #9021
Thanks for the encouragement Luch, i havn’t done any scale work whatsoever yet, are they important to learn?
I can’t seem to get enough time with the guitar, i finish a session and go to bed thinking ok, tomorrow i’ll do such and such lol, i love it and feel i will never get bored with this, frustrated yes but not to the point that i want to do a Pete Townsend on my guitar lol
I know it will all come together and the reward is going to be so worth while the practicing.
cheers
Neil.
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December 20, 2012 at 10:38 pm #9024
@neil groves wrote:
.. I haven’t done any scale work whatsoever yet, are they important to learn? ~~ snip ~~ I know it will all come together and the reward is going to be so worth while the practicing.
cheers
Neil.Neil, yes scales are important. Very important. Even the standard ‘boring’ C Major Scale where newbies start when taking lessons. Playing that scale over and over limbers your fingers, builds finger strength & callouses, and improves your speed over time. But then you move on and up the neck. Like to the A Minor Pentatonic Scale that Brian uses in most of his lessons. Just playing that Am Pent. Scale in certain ways can give you some incredible licks (the Scale is like magic). Sometimes (or a lot) the Am Pent. Scale is called The Blues Scale but that’s not ‘technically’ correct as the Blues Scale has two extra Eb notes in it, the ‘Blues’ notes
So absolutely no offense, but it seems like you’re not trying to run before you can walk. But more like entering the 100 Yard (meter?) Dash in the Olympics before you can crawl. In short, you’re practicing the wrong stuff. Way too advanced, playing notes you don’t know what scale they’re in or why they’re there and not the note on the next fret. So I’d drop the David Gilmores and get into Brian’s Lessons for your experience level (that’s why they’re here). After a ‘while’ then David Gilmore will make sense and sound good when you can play it.
Playing something ‘easy’ and sounds good is fun. It’s ten times better than playing something hard, sounds like ___ and gets you frustrated. That ain’t fun, its punishment. .
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December 20, 2012 at 10:47 pm #9025
Thanks Mike, i appreciate all you have said, i am mainly interested in blues and 70’s rock so i prefere to mess around with Em and Am chords, so i best learn those scales for a while till i am confident, maybe thats why i’m not getting too far too quickly, i will leave the more complicated stuff till my fingers are more flexible and my playing is more fluid, at the moment i have to stop after 3-4 notes due to poor memory and it doesn’t sound good.
thanks again Mike.
Neil.
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December 21, 2012 at 12:19 am #9027
Wow Neil, I have to agree with both mikes here. I didn’t know you hadn’t even attempted to learn scales and weren’t working with them. I’ve practiced the scales all up and down the neck, and still do. And from practicing them and like Mike said, a lot of brians lessons use these (really ALL his lessons do). I can at times connect up or down the neck from these scales, believe me I’m not far advanced. But from practicing the scales I have been able to recognize them in some of the lessons I’ve been trying learning riffs. At least when a backing track says what key it is in, I can find it on the fretboard from practicing scales over and over. And sometimes I can actually use the scale with a backing track and throw some nice riffs together. I still don’t understand all of it but keep trudging along. So, do yourself a huge favor and work on learning the scales. Like when I play along with the backing track for Comfortably Numb, I haven’t mastered Gilmour, I just know it’s in bm and know where that is on the fretboard, and I improvise using the notes in that scale and to me, and my wife, it actually sounds good. Have fun with it Neil!
If you ever have any questions shout it out, if I don’t know the answer, someone here does, that’s why we’re all here. -
December 21, 2012 at 3:37 am #9028
Thankyou Luch, the main thing is making it a fun process and enjoying it as you go along, as i have saidi am thoroughly enjoying myself and i am definately going to give these scales a look especially the m scales as i am partial to nice blues riffs, i’m sure they will be useful after reading what you can do with them, i think thats why i hadn’t bothered with them since i didn’t know what they were for lol.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
Neil.
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December 22, 2012 at 12:45 am #9029
Well i just learned the Em scale and found out how boring scales are to practice, so i practice them for a few mins then go to youtube for some blues riffs examples and learn those which are way more fun, and it’s true that when you learn something like a riff and get some timing into it and it starts to sound good, THATS when you get the ‘reward’ that people have told me about…..so very very worth while.
Neil.
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December 22, 2012 at 2:58 pm #9032
Did you add the B- flat, making it an E blues scale? The B-flat acts as a passing tone when we are using it for soloing over E minor type progressions. And, this scale could be called E minor blues, since it has a flat-3rd. I’m not sure if there’s any proper way to learning the scales, especially since I’m pretty much self taught and don’t have anyone correcting me but I began with the C Major scale. And at the same time doing that was learning the notes. Then learned how to find the same note in other places on the fret board by counting down two frets and down two strings, except for the high E and B where if I remember correctly you count down three frets. There’s a lot to learn about guitar and I feel I’ve only scratched the surface. But don’t let up on learning the scales because you think it’s boring. If you keep digging you’ll uncover things that turn boring into interesting and fun.
Good luck!
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January 28, 2013 at 2:53 am #9428
I came to the forum just about to post exactly this…glad I read it first! I downloaded Brian’s Blues Lead lesson and am working my way through the licks and get the same issue when bending into the other strings. Yes, I too could spend more time running the scales. 🙂
Glad to see it’s not just me and I’ll take the advice given here to see if I can’t work through it.
Thanx much!
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