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April 14, 2020 at 9:45 am #168909
Hi just a quick one as I am confused,
i am going through the licks in pattern 1 on the blues lead course, the TABS are all in the Key of A ,however the videos appear to be in C. Is that correct and why would you do examples in one key and then put tab in another key to beginners????
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April 14, 2020 at 10:10 am #168913
If the blues seems to be in A it is actually A minor. The scale notes of A minor are identical to the scale notes of C. A minor is the RELATIVE minor of C major and have the exact same notes. Also, the scale of a relative minor is shown as the scale of its relative major. Hence, the scale for the A minor scale will be the scale indication for C major.
The root note of the relative minor of a major scale starts on the sixth note of the major scale e.g. the sixth note of the C major scale is A. A is, therefore, the root note of A minor which is the relative minor of C major.
Hope I have not confused you further. Brian JH -
April 14, 2020 at 10:16 am #168915
Lol Confused?????????? My head is throbbing lol
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April 14, 2020 at 10:33 am #168919
Andy,
I think almost everybody that has been through the blues course asks this question. You’re not missing anything. For some reason, Brian demonstrated in the different key but it’s the same box shape.
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April 14, 2020 at 10:46 am #168920
Cool , i will take some more time I am sure I will get my head round it, great course anyway!
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April 14, 2020 at 11:46 am #168927
Andy,
I just think this is Brian’s way of making you think about it a bit more and maybe ask the relevant questions, which you have.
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April 14, 2020 at 4:10 pm #168966
As Charjo says, literally everyone who has ever gone through the blues lead course has asked that question. The zen master has just done it to make you think about it.
Sunjamr Steve
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April 14, 2020 at 7:09 pm #169001
Where do you find this from the home page.
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April 19, 2020 at 12:43 pm #169534
This is located in “My Account” “My Courses”
Sorry, but I am confused too. Brian goes through pattern 1 in “Defining the Pattern”, then all the licks are not within that pattern. Did he say something that I missed? What happened to pattern 1 licks? -
July 20, 2020 at 6:14 pm #183142
I’m in the middle of this course now and was too embarrassed to speak up, but I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for raising the issue. I have to admit I still don’t understand it, but that’s ok. I’m just focusing on learning how to jam. I’m _completely_ stuck on Pattern 1 – Lick 8 right now. A complete finger-buster for me since I’ve never learned how to play fast.
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July 20, 2020 at 6:33 pm #183145
Pattern 1 is pattern 1 no matter which key you play it in, take the pattern 1 lick which Brian shows being played in key of C and transpose it to key of A…. so get yourself back to the 5th fret and play the lick there.. hope this helps fellas.
..Billy..
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July 28, 2020 at 8:45 am #183702
Thanks for this thread. I am also in the middle of the Blues Lead course. I’m thoroughly enjoying this course but must admit I’ve been here before. I’ve been playing chords and rhythm guitar for about 25 years and have attempted lead fills and pentatonic scales and shapes before but it never really sticks. I’m wondering if any of you have any advice to get over this hump. I jam with buds now and again but mostly do my own home recording and am thinking that maybe a lack of jamming and soloing is the reason that my lead playing doesn’t evolve. Perhaps lack of practice. The reason I signed up for AM is to play a lead blues/chord melody by myself as Brian does on many of his videos. I feel like that is something to showcase rather than a bunch of licks without a backing band. I’m also rambling here and looking for some clarity or to define my goals. I am enjoying the Blues course and will proceed but hoping it sticks this time. After the Blues course, where do you recommend going to consolidate all this new learning? I appreciate any insights! Thank you and loving AM and all the forums.
Greg
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September 16, 2020 at 1:33 am #191988
Funny. I’ve just started looking at this course, looked at the pattern 1 licks and thought: eh? pleased to see lots of other people also slightly perplexed!
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September 28, 2020 at 5:48 am #193017
I too was surprised to find the different keys in the backup tracks but I just found them and used pattern 1 to play them. I found what Billy said to be the case. Brian you succeeded in broadening our horizon in the very first lick. Pretty sneaky, 🤓
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November 24, 2020 at 2:46 am #220356
Yep, learning from the video, Brian shows and tells, frets 10 and 8 of the third string….. the printed tab says 7 and 5 for the first 2 notes, then the backing track wants you to go down further. I must admit, I came up with some useful sounds, finding where I needed to be. Interesting!
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January 2, 2021 at 3:20 am #227128
As I see it, position 1 involves the 5th fret position. The pattern (also referred to as pattern 1) is movable to any other position to suit the key you want. Don’t confuse positions with patterns is my advice.
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November 25, 2021 at 5:28 am #281788
Just a lame question. If the licks are in a different key and we follow the tabbed notes, won’t the backing tracks be useless unless we play in C like he does? I know I just move the pattern to C but I’m looking for a slow blues backing track in E and A as well but I can’t seem to find them on this site.
Also, I’m an acoustic player only and is it just me or are these licks more geared to the electric?
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November 25, 2021 at 7:19 am #281794
Pattern 1 is pattern 1 no matter which key you play it in, take the pattern 1 lick which Brian shows being played in key of C and transpose it to key of A…. so get yourself back to the 5th fret and play the lick there.. hope this helps fellas.
Wrong. It’s the exact same pattern in the exact same spot on the fretboard. C maj / A minor. I guess the whole relative minor thing went over your head. The short answer is “It didn’t help at all” lol
Andy what they are trying to say is… if you play the Pattern 1 pentatonic in A minor, you actually also playing it in C Major. The notes are the same, but the order of them is different. So in pattern 1 minor the root (A) is on the 5th fret of the E string. Whilst the major root (C) is on the 8th fret. If this is confusing you, just gloss over it. It’s really not important right now.
The important thing is, it’s the same.As to your question “why would brain do this?” Because this site isn’t about learning, it’s a shrine to how much better Brian is than you in every way. So instead of avoiding confusing things such as this for the ease of learning… he wants you to come here so his worshipers can explain that “it’s over your head and just to trust the Zen Master.”
If they offer any Kool Aid, kindly decline and then excuse yourself.
Well ….. Let’s try this again.
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November 25, 2021 at 10:44 am #281804
Pattern 1 is pattern 1 no matter which key you play it in, take the pattern 1 lick which Brian shows being played in key of C and transpose it to key of A…. so get yourself back to the 5th fret and play the lick there.. hope this helps fellas.
Wrong. It’s the exact same pattern in the exact same spot on the fretboard. C maj / A minor. I guess the whole relative minor thing went over your head. The short answer is “It didn’t help at all” lol
Well there you go, it’s been about 20mins since I was last wrong about something.
..Billy..
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January 15, 2022 at 4:46 pm #292544
Hi all
At the beginning of the video for Lick 1, Brian says “we are in Pattern 1 obviously”, but we are on frets 8 and 10, not in the scale pattern. What’s the connection? -
February 11, 2022 at 4:25 pm #297305
Hi Stephen T,
The minor pentatonic pattern 1 can be moved up and down the fretboard, depending on which key you are in.
In the first video “defining the pattern”, Brian shows the pattern in the key of A (with the green dots superimposed on the guitar). The first (lowest) note of pattern 1 is always the root note. So, in the key of A, the root note is an A (5th fret of the low E string).
However, the licks are played in the key of C. Shift the pattern 3 frets up the board so that your root note is now C (8th fret of the low E string). Licks in the key of C can be played with a backing track in the key of C. The “funky pattern 1” backing track is in the key of C. The other backing tracks are in other keys and you’ll have to move the pattern 1 accordingly (watch the excellent “finding the key” video).
(Anyway, that’s my understanding. I respectfully disagree with MrDownChild unless I misunderstood what he is saying. We don’t need to go into majors and relative minors)
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